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Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Tenth Suggestion:
Thanks to MathlyCat

Users that presume ‘competition is unhealthy’, or just see it as ‘bad’.

Please understand that;

1. Competition is absolutely everywhere, I mean literally everywhere. Teaching kids about the real world is good, instilling fair and safe competition is very productive in the community. Why? Competition gives Scratcher's motivation; on the contrary of what many people think, they aren't being discouraged, unless of course you're the minority of people who are easily disheartened. This motivation makes it so Scratcher's persevere to make better of their projects, and the more this happens the more vibrant community gets.
2. Stop pampering the kids on the site. I understand certain things must be hidden, but it's unfair to hide the younger generation from the real world; they're already watching TV and the such I'm sure they've seen a lot. Scratch should be a place of growth in coding, and Scratch's side effects are great. You can make them better by adding more competition.
3. Not all competition is ‘good’. There are cases where there may be unneeded competition, like: how many scripts can I put in a project. Though, most of it is silly competition that young, creative minds are going to wander off to.

In conclusion, competition should only be the reason of no supporting in extreme cases. I, however, have not seen a single case where it should be the no supporting factor.
Twelfth Suggestion:
Thanks again to MathlyCat

When you're making a title, please make it look professional and not like you're trying to sell something to someone, or just putting your suggestion as a title. The title is key, but it also isn't the place to put your suggestion.

Delusional Title/Clickbait:

Please refrain from adding percentages or the amount of supporters to a title. Even if it does attract users it can be dishonest at times, and bias answers. Also, please don't use antagonizing phrases that place a person in a position of:

“Better support this or you're bad!!”

It can scare people into Supporting which isn't what you want!

Putting Your Post as a Title:

Please be sure to post your actual content in the larger box that isn't the title. It fills the page and looks unprofessional to just cram a ton of words as a title.

Keeping it Simple!:

My best tip is to make your title short and to the point. If your suggestion is about a like button, then make the title “Like Button”. As long as your title makes sense, isn't “Suggestion”, and follows these rules, you should be fine.



Where's the eleventh suggestion?
Nambaseking01
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Where's the eleventh suggestion?

From where did you gain the power to notice that?

The 2020 Award of Sight goes to you, my friend.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Nambaseking01 wrote:

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Where's the eleventh suggestion?

From where did you gain the power to notice that?

The 2020 Award of Sight goes to you, my friend.

It's been quite a while since @Sigton has done any activity. I checked his recent activity, nothing. I checked his latest project, and it's from 2018. Looks to me like he's dead, and he can't fix it.

Honestly, that's really starting to bug me…
R4356th
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

It's been quite a while since @Sigton has done any activity. I checked his recent activity, nothing. I checked his latest project, and it's from 2018. Looks to me like he's dead, and he can't fix it.

Honestly, that's really starting to bug me…
I do not think it is that big issue.
R4356th
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Honestly, that's really starting to bug me…
I have pointed him to your post.
Sigton
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Looks to me like he's dead, and he can't fix it.
Not quite dead

Good spot troops, I'll go fix that!

Sigton
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Sigton wrote:

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Looks to me like he's dead, and he can't fix it.
Not quite dead

Good spot troops, I'll go fix that!

Sigton

Oh! Sorry if that was in any way offensive.
Sigton
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

Oh! Sorry if that was in any way offensive.
Lol not at all, dont worry

Sigton
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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You might want to add something about blockspamming on here. This is used so frequently, and it needs to be ended. I noticed that you typically use examples of breaking the rules in the posts to visually explain, so here's a used example of blockspamming.

Anonymous wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever
if <key [ Tickle button] pressed?> then
say [LOL]
end
end

Thanks for this sticky! I've used it multiple times to show users why certain things are not allowed on the suggestions forums, and, without this, that wouldn't be possible.
Sigton
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

You might want to add something about blockspamming on here. This is used so frequently, and it needs to be ended. I noticed that you typically use examples of breaking the rules in the posts to visually explain, so here's a used example of blockspamming.

Anonymous wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever
if <key [ Tickle button] pressed?> then
say [LOL]
end
end

Thanks for this sticky! I've used it multiple times to show users why certain things are not allowed on the suggestions forums, and, without this, that wouldn't be possible.
While this is very true, I don't think this is the appropriate sticky to put it in as it applies to all forums and not just suggestions

Sigton
R4356th
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In the ninth suggestion, the link to the list of rejected suggestions sticky is of the very first generation of the list. Consider changing it to https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/343602/ , the current generation of the list.
Sigton
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R4356th wrote:

In the ninth suggestion, the link to the list of rejected suggestions sticky is of the very first generation of the list. Consider changing it to https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/343602/ , the current generation of the list.
Lol that's just showing my age.

Sigton
GuineaGod
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Yea

Sigton wrote:

R4356th wrote:

In the ninth suggestion, the link to the list of rejected suggestions sticky is of the very first generation of the list. Consider changing it to https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/343602/ , the current generation of the list.
Lol that's just showing my age.

Sigton

Yea true!
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Sigton wrote:

Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

You might want to add something about blockspamming on here. This is used so frequently, and it needs to be ended. I noticed that you typically use examples of breaking the rules in the posts to visually explain, so here's a used example of blockspamming.

Anonymous wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever
if <key [ Tickle button] pressed?> then
say [LOL]
end
end

Thanks for this sticky! I've used it multiple times to show users why certain things are not allowed on the suggestions forums, and, without this, that wouldn't be possible.
While this is very true, I don't think this is the appropriate sticky to put it in as it applies to all forums and not just suggestions

Sigton

I see. Thanks, anyway! I cannot stress how many times I've used this to explain why not to say support/no support. However, I think that this sticky needs more attention if I need to quote your posts constantly. Can you think of any ways to get it more attention?

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (May 4, 2020 00:23:12)

R4356th
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Sigton wrote:

Lol that's just showing my age.
What do you mean? I am really confused.
Sigton
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R4356th wrote:

Sigton wrote:

Lol that's just showing my age.
What do you mean? I am really confused.
When I made this thread the very first list of rejected suggestions was the new one

Sigton
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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One more thing (sorry if I am bugging you):

Lately, I've noticed some Scratchers using the Suggestions Forums to GET suggestions for projects or to MAKE suggestions to Scratchers (such as “Don't do F4F”), while this is not the point of the Suggestions Forums. The Suggestions Forums exist to give Scratch Team Members ideas to improve Scratch and make it the best place it can be.

If you need project help, go to Project Ideas.

For making suggestions to Scratchers, there is no place for that.

We should add somewhere on here about what the Suggestions Forums are all about.
dominic305
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The problem with this sticky is people are obsessing over it. I mean, it's packed with very good info, but lately, if you say ‘support’ everyone jumps on you about breaking rules and stuff. These are suggestions, though, and not rules. I think maybe this should be clarified in the thread.
Sigton
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dominic305 wrote:

The problem with this sticky is people are obsessing over it. I mean, it's packed with very good info, but lately, if you say ‘support’ everyone jumps on you about breaking rules and stuff. These are suggestions, though, and not rules. I think maybe this should be clarified in the thread.
If you're tired of people jumping on you for using the support convention - then you should abandon it

Sigton
ThatOneWeirdDude
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dominic305 wrote:

The problem with this sticky is people are obsessing over it. I mean, it's packed with very good info, but lately, if you say ‘support’ everyone jumps on you about breaking rules and stuff. These are suggestions, though, and not rules. I think maybe this should be clarified in the thread.
The support/no support system started from a normal scratch user, nobody endorsed it, and the Scratch Team doesn't encourage using it.
Anyways, people are jumping on you as you probably wrote something along the lines of:

“Support because this could be useful for _____”.

That is not constructive at all, seeing as this could be repeated over and over.

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