mastergamerx-details wrote:

Then it is a dictatorship

well then if 1984 on scratch continues
then scratchers will start rebelling scratch

To main OP:
This might be useful for
narcissistic scratchers who always think that
scratch is about gaming and not for anything else (no offense)

MrFluffyPenguins wrote:

TheXI_guy wrote:

It's truly horrible to have someone's animation or art deleted because some 9 yr old coming to play unblocked geometry dash at his school

this has not happened, ever.

Can you speak for every project that isn't a game?

Anyway, I think that this is an excellent idea, but what if someone is trying to report a project that isn't a game but has #games or #game tag on it? I think that it seems a little unlikely that someone would actually report projects for not being a game, unless it was to report unrelated tags. But then you could (fairly) say the same thing about people being unlikely to actually report projects for having the #game or #games tag on it.

i absolutely support. this would lead to a lot less mass reports, and i've totally seen a ton of 5 year olds going “ThIs IsN'T a GaMe?/?” on a project which is clearly an animation or music.

I've never understood why people would think that Scratch is just for games. Take one look at Trending. Support (for clarity)

Mozboz wrote:

I've never understood why people would think that Scratch is just for games. Take one look at Trending. Support (for clarity)

Remember, we're talking about humans. If there's two things that our species is good at, they are:
1. Stubbornness- we believe what we want to believe, and it's hard to change our mind about something once we've mad our own opinion about something
2. Not looking at all (or sometimes any) of the facts

Bump

iiucandyfloss wrote:

MrFluffyPenguins wrote:

TheXI_guy wrote:

It's truly horrible to have someone's animation or art deleted because some 9 yr old coming to play unblocked geometry dash at his school

this has not happened, ever.

Can you speak for every project that isn't a game?

Anyway, I think that this is an excellent idea, but what if someone is trying to report a project that isn't a game but has #games or #game tag on it? I think that it seems a little unlikely that someone would actually report projects for not being a game, unless it was to report unrelated tags. But then you could (fairly) say the same thing about people being unlikely to actually report projects for having the #game or #games tag on it.

The text could explain that unrelated tags aren't allowed, and that the tags could be specified in the report reason.

BigNate469 wrote:

gamemekar3000 wrote:

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1. Not related to the topic
2.

8to16 wrote:

If you're gonna say i'm a bot i'm actually using a text expansion system

3. Regardless of if they're a bot (and I can assure you they aren't), their point is correct:

• Scratch is not a democracy
  
• Your vote does not matter.
  

Bruh they are just saying that they think it is a good idea. They are not talking to ST

support.
Good way to stop weird reports made by children.

There are already four ‘fake’ options in the project report menu ('I don't like this project', ‘This project does not work’, ‘This project could be improved on’, ‘This project is too hard’). None of them send a ticket to the ST and all of them open a popup that tells you why that isn't a valid report reason. I think if those weren't buried in the ‘other’ section, they would suffice. Anyone reporting projects like this that knows it isn't a good reason to report is doing it out of malice and this won't stop them.

That said, on my more popular projects there are a surprising number of people who tell me that I should take them off Scratch because “they're not games”, and I'm certain some of them would have reported it. Adding this would likely not have a large immediate impact on the number of reports, but it would cut it down over time and make sharing projects easier for more popular users.

AHypnoman wrote:

There are already four ‘fake’ options in the project report menu ('I don't like this project', ‘This project does not work’, ‘This project could be improved on’, ‘This project is too hard’). None of them send a ticket to the ST and all of them open a popup that tells you why that isn't a valid report reason. I think if those weren't buried in the ‘other’ section, they would suffice. Anyone reporting projects like this that knows it isn't a good reason to report is doing it out of malice and this won't stop them.

That said, on my more popular projects there are a surprising number of people who tell me that I should take them off Scratch because “they're not games”, and I'm certain some of them would have reported it. Adding this would likely not have a large immediate impact on the number of reports, but it would cut it down over time and make sharing projects easier for more popular users.

So basically no support?

leogames2016 wrote:

AHypnoman wrote:

There are already four ‘fake’ options in the project report menu ('I don't like this project', ‘This project does not work’, ‘This project could be improved on’, ‘This project is too hard’). None of them send a ticket to the ST and all of them open a popup that tells you why that isn't a valid report reason. I think if those weren't buried in the ‘other’ section, they would suffice. Anyone reporting projects like this that knows it isn't a good reason to report is doing it out of malice and this won't stop them.

That said, on my more popular projects there are a surprising number of people who tell me that I should take them off Scratch because “they're not games”, and I'm certain some of them would have reported it. Adding this would likely not have a large immediate impact on the number of reports, but it would cut it down over time and make sharing projects easier for more popular users.

So basically no support?

I try not to classify my posts as ‘support’ or ‘no support’ (unless something is completely absurd). It doesn't really add to the discussion.

In this case I'm completely neutral to the idea.

I definitely agree that something should be done about people assuming every project on Scratch must be a game, and by adding a report option that explains to users that not every project is a game, it would help new users understand that and also prevent there being too many false reports

Support. I know some people in real life that treat scratch projects as games. Scratch is coding site, not games.

Mockup

iiucandyfloss wrote:

MrFluffyPenguins wrote:

TheXI_guy wrote:

It's truly horrible to have someone's animation or art deleted because some 9 yr old coming to play unblocked geometry dash at his school

this has not happened, ever.

Can you speak for every project that isn't a game?

Anyway, I think that this is an excellent idea, but what if someone is trying to report a project that isn't a game but has #games or #game tag on it? I think that it seems a little unlikely that someone would actually report projects for not being a game, unless it was to report unrelated tags. But then you could (fairly) say the same thing about people being unlikely to actually report projects for having the #game or #games tag on it.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT BANNING NON-GAME PROJECTS
I see people complaining that projects aren't games because they only use scratch for unblocked games.
Make it like the “I don't like this project.” The response should be…
Scratch is for all ages, and all kinds of projects! If you prefer different genres of projects, try searching for projects, or creating a studio about the projects you enjoy viewing.
I have seen someone saying they reported something because it isn't a game.

Is what OP said

AHypnoman wrote:

leogames2016 wrote:

AHypnoman wrote:

There are already four ‘fake’ options in the project report menu ('I don't like this project', ‘This project does not work’, ‘This project could be improved on’, ‘This project is too hard’). None of them send a ticket to the ST and all of them open a popup that tells you why that isn't a valid report reason. I think if those weren't buried in the ‘other’ section, they would suffice. Anyone reporting projects like this that knows it isn't a good reason to report is doing it out of malice and this won't stop them.

That said, on my more popular projects there are a surprising number of people who tell me that I should take them off Scratch because “they're not games”, and I'm certain some of them would have reported it. Adding this would likely not have a large immediate impact on the number of reports, but it would cut it down over time and make sharing projects easier for more popular users.

So basically no support?

I try not to classify my posts as ‘support’ or ‘no support’ (unless something is completely absurd). It doesn't really add to the discussion.

In this case I'm completely neutral to the idea.

I'm sorry,couldn't understand it well,The way you worded it,especially those statements here

Anyone reporting projects like this that knows it isn't a good reason to report is doing it out of malice and this won't stop them.

I'm certain some of them would have reported it.

make it seem you don't even support this suggestion and you're just claiming things out of your mind. Especially when you claim they're doing it out of malice and cannot be stopped.

While yours seem fine.i don't get it why you'd never use “Support” or “No support”. It does add to the discussion,cause they support or don't support the suggestion.

wesnothplayer wrote:

8to16 wrote:

Albus2023 wrote:

I support!

when this forum clicked :: events hat
say [I give 100% support! :D]

Scratch is not a democracy or a ballot box.
The Scratch Team will not consider a suggestion simply because a lot of people support it. They consider the pros and cons.
Please be constructive and explain why you support this suggestion.

stop copy-pasting.
yes simply saying “I support” does not convince the ST that this suggestion is good for scratch, but what if they simply want to show their support for the suggestion without adding anything? they simply agree with the OP and have nothing more to add.
if the forums had some sort of positive reaction system I could see how this could be a policy, but they don't. if we require that every post add something new to the topic, then several other posts should have gotten this “explain why you support” statement from you.
in fact, the scratch team considers the pros and cons even without the responses and supports. him explaining why he supports will rarely do anything for the suggestion.

Yes, it will. Paddle2See has stated that the scratch team wants to see discussion, not “YES SUPPORT!”

leogames2016 wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

8to16 wrote:

Support, lowers false reports (even if they're rarer than everybody thinks)

It's not that false reports aren't rare (I would actually argue the contrary), it's that false reports leading to a (permanent) project takedown is almost unheard of.
Note that it has happened before, to my knowledge- when the project asks itself to be reported, which is a violation of the rules itself. However, people may not report it for this reason

It's not rare, false reports take down your projects commonly and false reporters reports projects that were never inappropriate but scratch team won't take it up cause they think it was inappropriate. Was that false report on a project really inappropriate and thus not a false report?

If a report leads to scratch reviewing your project and they decide not to put the project up, then it is not a false report, there are many rules that people dont know, please dont spread false information

epicdude512 wrote:

leogames2016 wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

8to16 wrote:

Support, lowers false reports (even if they're rarer than everybody thinks)

It's not that false reports aren't rare (I would actually argue the contrary), it's that false reports leading to a (permanent) project takedown is almost unheard of.
Note that it has happened before, to my knowledge- when the project asks itself to be reported, which is a violation of the rules itself. However, people may not report it for this reason

It's not rare, false reports take down your projects commonly and false reporters reports projects that were never inappropriate but scratch team won't take it up cause they think it was inappropriate. Was that false report on a project really inappropriate and thus not a false report?

If a report leads to scratch reviewing your project and they decide not to put the project up, then it is not a false report, there are many rules that people dont know, please dont spread false information

What are the unspoken many rules that they don't know?

And I'm not spreading false information! All or most of it is true. The community guidelines are currently too vague on that.