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Honey_Dreamz
Scratcher
100+ posts

democracy

no democracy makes me sad when my vote isn't chosen
also scratch is a kid's coding site not a democratic nation
Votes don't really help the ST know why something should be added. Just because it has more popular demand than another feature doesn't mean it's more worth adding for everyone. Even when you have to add reasoning to your vote, people can use that to spam. I think we're better off with the Suggestions forum as we have now. Besides, if these votes are just preselected features, then how would the ST know to add other things that weren't on the poll but that another user suggests and that user's suggestion is actually more beneficial and useful than the ones in the poll?
as always i have to edit it but king of the page

Last edited by Honey_Dreamz (Oct. 8, 2024 20:51:38)

ilovestories
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

Let's say 51% of users want Scratch to be blue again. (This isn't necessarily true, it's just an example.)
“Make Scratch blue again” is voted for by each of these users.
Scratch is blue again, and it's hard for colorblind users to read anything.
ThisIsTemp1
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

ilovestories wrote:

Let's say 51% of users want Scratch to be blue again. (This isn't necessarily true, it's just an example.)
“Make Scratch blue again” is voted for by each of these users.
Scratch is blue again, and it's hard for colorblind users to read anything.

I think necessary features shouldn't be brought up to a vote.

Mryellowdoggy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

ilovestories wrote:

Let's say 51% of users want Scratch to be blue again. (This isn't necessarily true, it's just an example.)
“Make Scratch blue again” is voted for by each of these users.
Scratch is blue again, and it's hard for colorblind users to read anything.
Yeah, most people might not understand the design goals of Scratch and the practicality of every feature.
GlitchedThrough
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

ilovestories wrote:

Let's say 51% of users want Scratch to be blue again. (This isn't necessarily true, it's just an example.)
“Make Scratch blue again” is voted for by each of these users.
Scratch is blue again, and it's hard for colorblind users to read anything.
51% wouldn't be counted as a majority, 3/4 minimum, and the devs would have the final say
Catscratcher07
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

In order for this to work with Scratch's goals, this would need to be done like a Minecraft mob vote—and those recently got discontinued because they caused too much drama.
8to16
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

this is basically a poll with a given reason, which is rejected.

The Official List of Rejected Suggestions wrote:

9.6 Polls in the forums

Some Scratchers have suggested optional polls that could be implemented into forum threads so users can vote on a particular suggestion, state that they experience the same glitch as someone else, or for other reasons. However, the Scratch Team is less interested in polling results and more interested in constructive posts on the forums. Although polls could theoretically reduce the number of unconstructive posts, they likely would not help Scratchers think constructively and write constructive posts. This suggestion includes polls that Scratchers can create themselves, as well as pre-made polls.

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Mryellowdoggy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

8to16 wrote:

this is basically a poll with a given reason, which is rejected.

The Official List of Rejected Suggestions wrote:

9.6 Polls in the forums

Some Scratchers have suggested optional polls that could be implemented into forum threads so users can vote on a particular suggestion, state that they experience the same glitch as someone else, or for other reasons. However, the Scratch Team is less interested in polling results and more interested in constructive posts on the forums. Although polls could theoretically reduce the number of unconstructive posts, they likely would not help Scratchers think constructively and write constructive posts. This suggestion includes polls that Scratchers can create themselves, as well as pre-made polls.

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This looks like it's only for polls in the forums. This suggestion might be different.
8to16
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

Mryellowdoggy wrote:

(#28)
This looks like it's only for polls in the forums. This suggestion might be different.
I had a similar suggestion (a support button on the forums) and that got rejected
starlightsparker
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

8to16 wrote:

I had a similar suggestion (a support button on the forums) and that got rejected
A support button on the forums is not at all what this is.
8to16
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

Catscratcher07 wrote:

(#26)
In order for this to work with Scratch's goals, this would need to be done like a Minecraft mob vote—and those recently got discontinued because they caused too much drama.
BOYCOTT THE FEATURE VOTE
BOYCOTT THE FEATURE VOTE
BOYCOTT THE FEATURE VOTE
scratchcode1_2_3
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#5)
no, scratch is a dictatorship, ruled by the glorious Supreme Council.
erm acthually wouldn't that be an oligarchy
Elijah999999
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

What if the Scratchers vote something dumb?
50_scratch_tabs
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

Elijah999999 wrote:

(#33)
What if the Scratchers vote something dumb?
The ST would choose the suggestions that are choices.
SpyCoderX
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

Elijah999999 wrote:

What if the Scratchers vote something dumb?
The ST (probably) wouldn’t add it.

Last edited by SpyCoderX (Oct. 9, 2024 21:37:29)

Elijah999999
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

SpyCoderX wrote:

Elijah999999 wrote:

What if the Scratchers vote something dumb?
The ST (probably) wouldn’t add it.
That kind of defeats the purpose though.

50_scratch_tabs wrote:

The ST would choose the suggestions that are choices.
If they could do that, why don't they just add the features without the vote?
50_scratch_tabs
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

Elijah999999 wrote:

(#36)
If they could do that, why don't they just add the features without the vote?
Prioritization. Like the mob vote in Minecraft.

Oh. Just realized that someone already said that.

Last edited by 50_scratch_tabs (Oct. 10, 2024 03:18:21)

Honey_Dreamz
Scratcher
100+ posts

democracy

8to16 wrote:

Mryellowdoggy wrote:

(#28)
This looks like it's only for polls in the forums. This suggestion might be different.
I had a similar suggestion (a support button on the forums) and that got rejected
Yeah, because that doesn't help the developers see why something should be added and what pros and cons the community sees, just like a lazy poll.
50_scratch_tabs
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

The ST would think of, maybe 3 features that they could reasonably add and that would work well.
The ST always gets the final say. But the idea is that they could ask us what we want first.
50_scratch_tabs
Scratcher
1000+ posts

democracy

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