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mingo-gag
Scratcher
500+ posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

Yeah we should stay on topic instead of this drama at the top anyways, I do support this I've seen posts that were written by AI and most of the time its information is wrong or It doesn't make any sense.
Maltion
Scratcher
100+ posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

I think using AI should be fine if you are using it to write your own post but not to copy it and paste. It can be very helpful when trying to find flaws on discussions
_Duplicate_
Scratcher
39 posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

Za-Chary wrote:

ilovestories wrote:

Is it that much of a problem?
Yes. When someone asks a question in the forums, it is presumably because they are looking for advice from a human Scratcher. If they wanted an AI answer, they would have just asked an AI. The AI-generated posts also frequently contain misinformation, which oftentimes is subtle to the point where even the Scratcher posting the AI-generated content doesn't realize it's misinformation.

As for the suggestion at hand, I believe this is already implemented: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/post/7795869/

cheddargirl wrote:

Outside cases of a person is using AI for post assistance, use of AI would not okay for the following reasons:
1) A person looking for answers in the discussion boards are looking for help from a person. If someone wanted to get an AI-generated answers, there's no point they would be asking here instead of seeking help directly from ChatGPT (associated with Microsoft), Bard/Gemini(associated with Google), or some other AI service.

2) The answers posted by AI can sometimes be inaccurate or topic-derailing, and spreading misinformation or posting derailing spam is not okay. It's in violation of the “Give helpful feedback” guideline (formerly the “Be constructive” guidelines.
It's my understanding that you can use the Report button on posts that use AI to answer a question.
I'll probably make a post with ai, but i feel like answering questions with it is unnecessary, the only reason i would use this is because i wouldn't find enough inspo to write a page
_Duplicate_
Scratcher
39 posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

han614698 wrote:

It's just a huge cheater way of doing it, and doesn't help people.

It's already really frowned upon, but I doubt it's reportable.
Microsoft Copilot says

Microsoft Copilot:

The discussion about banning AI in forum posts touches on a broader debate about the role of technology in our interactions. On one hand, AI can be a powerful tool to enhance our communication, provide quick answers, and support creative projects. It can assist users in finding information and even generating content when used responsibly.

On the other hand, it's important to maintain the integrity of human interactions and creativity in forums. Over-reliance on AI might reduce the personal touch and unique perspectives that individuals bring to discussions. There's also the concern about the ethical use of AI, ensuring transparency and fairness.

A balanced approach could be to set clear guidelines for the use of AI in forums. Educating users on responsible AI use, ensuring transparency about when AI is used, and having moderation in place to prevent misuse could help address concerns while still allowing the benefits of AI technology.

Ultimately, the goal should be to enhance human capabilities and foster a supportive and creative community, whether through human effort, AI support, or a combination of both. ✨

Last edited by _Duplicate_ (Yesterday 03:01:32)

50_scratch_tabs
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

You guys. We get it. Y'all need to stop giving AI generated responses.

It's like if I made a suggestion to ban posts that were only scratchblocks and you replied with scratchblocks saying you support.
WindowsAdmin
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

50_scratch_tabs wrote:

You guys. We get it. Y'all need to stop giving AI generated responses.

It's like if I made a suggestion to ban posts that were only scratchblocks and you replied with scratchblocks saying you support.
support, this is such an amazing suggestion :: motion
how has nobody thought of this before :: looks
helps the community, helps the casual users, helps the teachers :: sound
if we keep hitting these ungodly Ws scratch will finally be monetized :: sensing
han614698
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

GameCatastrophe0927 wrote:

Zydrolic wrote:

You were rude, went off-topic, made points that were irrelevant, and unnecessarily used your sarcasm in a mean way.

People retorted in kind. You sparked this one, not them.
I think the way you're saying that is rude in of itself, but that's neither here nor there. I don't know why you think I was being mean, but please, I am done here, I don't want to receive any more quotes from people just for expressing my own personal opinion.
Saying someone is rude is not rude. I’ve said this many times: you came on here combative, just asking for an argument.If you don’t want people to respond to your posts, don’t post! This isn’t a ballot box…
Sarcasm in response to a disagreement tends to come off as mean spirited even if that’s not the intent.

Zydrolic wrote:

Maybe the title should be changed to “Formally ban merely sending an AI-generated response not used for grammar assistance”? It seems to be causing a bit of confusion and does sound more like “completely ban AI” than what the actual discussion is about.

I digress, though. This suggestion is “more or less in place” already:
I will look into the OP later and rewriting it. I do have to admit that I haven’t looked at the first page of this topic in months.

I personally think any AI that is noticable should be banned - eg if people are writing sections of their post with AI. I’m not against people using it for grammar, but the general guise of this suggestion is that *I don’t want to be able to figure out if you used AI*. If I can tell that you used it, I think it should be banned.

Note: The use of the pronoun “I” above functions as “We”, meaning the Scratch Community. but was omitted and replaced to reduce confusion. I would not be the one judging this.
cake__5
Scratcher
100+ posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

if i werent such a good writer, then ai would help me be more convincing. scratch needs to not ban ai or else my friend _duplicate_ and many of my other friends will not have a convincing voice that will be heard anymore :'(

mingo-gag wrote:

Yeah we should stay on topic instead of this drama at the top anyways, I do support this I've seen posts that were written by AI and most of the time its information is wrong or It doesn't make any sense.
hey! the posts ive seen written by ai were beautifully convincing of their point, even if you think its wrong

Last edited by cake__5 (Yesterday 15:30:04)

han614698
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Formally Ban AI in Forum Posts

cake__5 wrote:

if i werent such a good writer, then ai would help me be more convincing. scratch needs to not ban ai or else my friend _duplicate_ and many of my other friends will not have a convincing voice that will be heard anymore :'(

mingo-gag wrote:

Yeah we should stay on topic instead of this drama at the top anyways, I do support this I've seen posts that were written by AI and most of the time its information is wrong or It doesn't make any sense.
hey! the posts ive seen written by ai were beautifully convincing of their point, even if you think its wrong
Frankly, no one cares about AI’s opinions. We care about the Scratcher’s opinions.

If you can’t forum with out AI, frankly you shouldn’t be foruming.

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