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GlitchedThrough
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

If you post here you are obligated to start it off with “Support for Reasons in OP
i don’t think this is a dupe, and couldn’t find one.
So, in a lot of posts, looking at suggestions, users will reply pointing to the reasons in the OP.
Now, sure, every does posts which are partially useless, or not highly on topic, for example, correcting another post on a technical matter.
But, in suggestions specifically, these should still bring something new to the table. Just stating you believe it’s a good suggestion due to already listed reasons doesn’t add anything. It’s just looking for a reason to make the suggestion a ballot box.

User2 wrote:

User1 wrote:

Y’know, I think this should be added. It just makes the ST’s job more difficult by filling up a suggestion!
^^
This ALSO isn’t constructive, as it’s just piggy backing off another’s point.
I believe these posts should be strongly discouraged, or even better, banned.
So, how do we discourage it? An announcement post saying not to do it.

Last edited by GlitchedThrough (Dec. 14, 2023 15:35:36)

Gamer_Logan819
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Support for reasons in OP.
bobcat0701
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

I've noticed an influx of this in the newer “generations” of forumers. It feels to me almost like a form of post grinding. The support convention itself isn't that good in the first place and this is even worse…

Last edited by bobcat0701 (Dec. 12, 2023 19:31:03)

randomguy3513
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Support for reasons in op!

I'm joking lol, I really agree with this suggestion. It pretty much is just spam and unwanted. However quoting somebody and saying “^^” can have an exception if you want to basically bump the post and it's buried in.
Zydrolic
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Support for reasons in the OP
Joking aside, I agree with you - Been seeing it more often and it's really just unconstructive as you are doing nothing but saying “I second this.” without adding onto the original point and you are indeed just piggybacking.
GlitchedThrough
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Support for the reasons in OP

bobcat0701 wrote:

I've noticed an influx of this in the newer “generations” of forumers. It feels to me almost like a form of post grinding. The support convention itself isn't that good in the first place and this is even worse…
I’va noticed it too. It went from once every few days to daily.

randomguy3513 wrote:

Support for reasons in op!

I'm joking lol, I really agree with this suggestion. It pretty much is just spam and unwanted. However quoting somebody and saying “^^” can have an exception if you want to basically bump the post and it's buried in.
Thet can work, but a lot of the time its “Oh, i agree”
MagicCoder330
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Support for reasons in OP

This should probably extend to other things like just quoting somebody and saying “same” “ditto” or the like, and probably just saying “support” or “no support”.
Gamer_Logan819
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

MagicCoder330 wrote:

Support for reasons in OP

This should probably extend to other things like just quoting somebody and saying “same” “ditto” or the like, and probably just saying “support” or “no support”.
Same ^^
bobcat0701
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

(#8)

MagicCoder330 wrote:

Support for reasons in OP

This should probably extend to other things like just quoting somebody and saying “same” “ditto” or the like, and probably just saying “support” or “no support”.
Same ^^
Just because its sarcasm related to the topic doesn't make it good post…
alwayspaytaxes
Scratcher
500+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

At least the support convention has been mostly mitigated so users should provide reasons, but even that is kind of stupid to begin with. Suggestions don't need opinions, they only really need criticisms and feedback

bobcat0701 wrote:

I've noticed an influx of this in the newer “generations” of forumers. It feels to me almost like a form of post grinding.
True ^^ “aT lEaSt I'm NoT oNe Of ThEm”
yadayadayadagoodbye
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

At least the support convention has been mostly mitigated so users should provide reasons, but even that is kind of stupid to begin with. Suggestions don't need opinions, they only really need criticisms and feedback

bobcat0701 wrote:

I've noticed an influx of this in the newer “generations” of forumers. It feels to me almost like a form of post grinding.
True ^^ “aT lEaSt I'm NoT oNe Of ThEm”
Suggestions do also need opinions, in the sense that the opinion of scratchers in general is important. However, opinions dont need to be repeatedly stated. (For example, on a topic suggesting darkmode, it would be useful to know that “many scratchers wants darkmode”, but not so much to know “I want dark mode” “same” “me too”)

Also most criticism/feedbacks are opinions lol
Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

It's my understanding that such posts are not constructive. Maybe you can Report them already? I'm not sure if I ever have, because I'm a little unsure of the rules myself. But it may be worth asking a moderator.
unmissable
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

I was about to do the joke but everyone else has already so
Also doesn't one of the stickies discourage it already?
And how would it even be implemented?
YtArie5
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Support for reasons in the OP!

This has become extremely common, and I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed.

One of the stickies actually does discourage this but no one seems to listen to it

Constructive Recommendations On How to Respond to and Make Suggestions! wrote:

Don't simply quote somebody, or do ^^^, or “As per this”, or any other alias you can find. It is just copying what the person before said before, and saying the same thing twice isn't going to help the discussion nor the idea. Try to add your own, original idea to make it a better idea!

I started typing this before unmissable posted

Last edited by YtArie5 (Dec. 12, 2023 20:37:50)

Basilikos
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Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

Suggestions don't need opinions
Suggestions need opinions to show that the suggestion actually does benefit the community.
alwayspaytaxes
Scratcher
500+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Basilikos wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

Suggestions don't need opinions
Suggestions need opinions to show that the suggestion actually does benefit the community.
I mean like basic opinions like Support because this lets you do <whatever reason is in OP>

Last edited by alwayspaytaxes (Dec. 12, 2023 21:08:15)

-StarryDog-
Scratcher
59 posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”


Support for reasons in OP
Joke aside, I agree with you because just saying “support for reasons in OP” isn't really constructive or adding something new to the topic and is basically spam
Paddle2See
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

Support for reasons in OP.
^^
MagicCoder330
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Paddle2See wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

Support for reasons in OP.
^^

Bro you have to contribute to the suggestion

funni

Last edited by MagicCoder330 (Dec. 12, 2023 22:10:29)

Zydrolic
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Discourage “Support for Reasons in OP”

Paddle2See wrote:

(#18)

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

Support for reasons in OP.
^^
This is truly the best post of all time.
Thank you Paddle2See.

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