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CodeLearnerSai
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Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

I have seen someone evade bans they receive. This feature would help prevent them from coming back.
When someone attempts to create an account from a VPN network, they should receive this error message:
It looks like you are using a VPN network. If none of your accounts are blocked, or you don't have an account, please try again from another network.

It would detect a VPN by asking for the IP address. This algorithm will not allow account creation if there is no response and there are recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s).

By recent, I mean 100 days.

Last edited by CodeLearnerSai (Feb. 17, 2023 02:59:15)

INSERT-USER_NAME
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

This seems like a good idea, but how would it detect if it was a VPN?
BreadcatGames
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

No support, people use vpns for other reasons.
CodeLearnerSai
Scratcher
100+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

BreadcatGames wrote:

No support, people use vpns for other reasons.
On Scratch or off of Scratch?
INSERT-USER_NAME
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

CodeLearnerSai wrote:

BreadcatGames wrote:

No support, people use vpns for other reasons.
On Scratch or off of Scratch?
Both.

60 second jumpscare

god he wishes he could make that image smaller
BreadcatGames
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

CodeLearnerSai wrote:

BreadcatGames wrote:

No support, people use vpns for other reasons.
On Scratch or off of Scratch?
Off of scratch as well like @INSERT-USER_NAME said.
sonic__fan
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

Firstly, people use VPNs for other stuff than evading Scratch bans (for example, you don't want websites to know your IP).
And secondly, how would Scratch detect if you're using a VPN?
BreadcatGames
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

sonic__fan wrote:

Firstly, people use VPNs for other stuff than evading Scratch bans (for example, you don't want websites to know your IP).
And secondly, how would Scratch detect if you're using a VPN?
I don’t think it could detect a vpn.
blablablahello
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

BreadcatGames wrote:

sonic__fan wrote:

Firstly, people use VPNs for other stuff than evading Scratch bans (for example, you don't want websites to know your IP).
And secondly, how would Scratch detect if you're using a VPN?
I don’t think it could detect a vpn.
theoretically it could by checking if your IP was that of a VPN's (by mannually listing out VPN IPs) or by “assuming” if you have the same IP as many other people

However, this doesn't do anything as a proxy can do the exact same thing and is basically undetectable… (from what i've heard, never used one lol)
Blockspammer
Scratcher
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Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

sonic__fan wrote:

And secondly, how would Scratch detect if you're using a VPN?
>Google “VPN Detection”
>44.000.000+ results
GIitchInTheMatrix
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

Cuz people who use VPN’s only ever wanna break Scratch’s rules and are not looking for security(is that the right word) online.
Perhaps i want my IP address to be private for reasons other than Scratch, as, despite never being banned, i have a VPN- on my phone!
Just use Contact Us if someone’s ban evading, or report share they said it. Besides, in that case, lets ban school networks from accessing Scratch, people may get IP banned off of school networks and use it at school.
Scratchy697
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

Blockspammer wrote:

sonic__fan wrote:

And secondly, how would Scratch detect if you're using a VPN?
>Google “VPN Detection”
>44.000.000+ results
Also yeah, no support, since most scratchers use VPNs outside of scratch and often forget to turn it off in scratch, leading to an undesired IP ban.
7salad3salad
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

Just because of 1 possible use of them, we should outright ban them? I feel like that's a little extreme.
INSERT-USER_NAME
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

7salad3salad wrote:

Just because of 1 possible use of them, we should outright ban them? I feel like that's a little extreme.
Agreed.
YtArie5
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

My vpn isn't used maliciously this would be totes unfair
MikeFalls
Scratcher
500+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

7salad3salad wrote:

Just because of 1 possible use of them, we should outright ban them? I feel like that's a little extreme.
Yeah it is. i agree
lovecodeabc
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

No support, many people use VPNs for non-malisious purpuposes.
cookieclickerer33
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

INSERT-USER_NAME wrote:

This seems like a good idea, but how would it detect if it was a VPN?
It’s cant

VPNs use real ip address
qwerty_wasd_gone
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

7salad3salad wrote:

Just because of 1 possible use of them, we should outright ban them? I feel like that's a little extreme.
yeah, no support
The_Blue_J
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent VPN networks with recent alert(s), account deletion(s) by the ST and/or current ban(s) from creating accounts

CodeLearnerSai wrote:

I have seen someone evade bans they receive. This feature would help prevent them from coming back.
When someone attempts to create an account from a VPN network, they should receive this error message:
It looks like you are using a VPN network. If none of your accounts are banned, or you don't have an account, please try again from another network.
Ussually, VPN ban evading is used only for unfair bans,like if someone mass reported them for no reason and contact us doesn't work.Just report the scratcher again and the new IP will also be banned.

I think this was intended specifically for IP bans.

Last edited by The_Blue_J (Feb. 16, 2023 17:04:09)

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