Add new, less childish sprites/backdrops to the Scratch library

-GentooPenguin-

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I think that adding new sprites and backdrops for an older (tween and teen) audience to the Scratch library, but not removing the current sprites and backdrops - that would make Scratch less appealing to Scratchers towards the younger end of Scratch's recommended age range (8 to 16 year olds) - would make Scratch more appealing to tweens and teens.

I am NOT suggesting for violent, disturbing or sexualized sprites (e.g. the Scratch Cat with a broken leg) to be added to the Scratch library.

Last edited by -GentooPenguin- (May 21, 2022 16:15:59)

minikiwigeek2

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Dragonspire77

Support, mostly because Scratch is meant to be for everyone, and a few new less-childish sprites could appeal to older Scratchers – what exactly were you thinking? More realistic sprites? Less cartoon-y ones?

Gato_Amigo111

Support!
I'm not a baby, and I think it makes sense that someone finally said something about it.

NanoRook

What is considered “childish” and “not childish” according to you?

BionicBoy554

We just need more template sprites, childish or not

YtArie5

NanoRook wrote:
What is considered “childish” and “not childish” according to you?

Sprites that are less “cartoony”?

Gato_Amigo111

YtArie5 wrote:
NanoRook wrote:
What is considered “childish” and “not childish” according to you?
Sprites that are less “cartoony”?

I think possibly that, or maybe sprites that go under childish themes. Bright colors, absence of pain or anguish, or a lack of complicated topics could all be considered childish to some degree.

RL1123

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:
I think possibly that, or maybe sprites that go under childish themes. Bright colors, absence of pain or anguish, or a lack of complicated topics could all be considered childish to some degree.

So are you saying that we should add sprites that are dull and unappealing or hurt?

Last edited by RL1123 (April 4, 2022 20:24:49)

Gato_Amigo111

RL1123 wrote:
Gato_Amigo111 wrote:
I think possibly that, or maybe sprites that go under childish themes. Bright colors, absence of pain or anguish, or a lack of complicated topics could all be considered childish to some degree.
So are you saying that we should add sprites that are dull and unappealing or hurt?

Possibly. What if scratch cat breaks his leg?

RL1123

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:
RL1123 wrote:
Gato_Amigo111 wrote:
I think possibly that, or maybe sprites that go under childish themes. Bright colors, absence of pain or anguish, or a lack of complicated topics could all be considered childish to some degree.
So are you saying that we should add sprites that are dull and unappealing or hurt?
Possibly. What if scratch cat breaks his leg?

I'm sure that would count as some form of violence. How is it supposed to be designed without being too childish or graphic?

sharkode

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:
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YtArie5 wrote:
NanoRook wrote:
What is considered “childish” and “not childish” according to you?
Sprites that are less “cartoony”?
I think possibly that, or maybe sprites that go under childish themes. Bright colors, absence of pain or anguish, or a lack of complicated topics could all be considered childish to some degree.

Does it mean we are going to have a sprite of Vladimir Putin trapped in a dark cell and covered in blood? If so, then I support!
(this is a joke of course)

Ok, back to the topic, I think we should make the sprites more realistic and less cartoony, this doesn't mean having real photos of people (that would be low-quality), but instead, the drawings should be improved to look more realistic. But I'd strongly advice against what @Gato_Amigo111 said.

sharkode

RL1123 wrote:
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Gato_Amigo111 wrote:
I think possibly that, or maybe sprites that go under childish themes. Bright colors, absence of pain or anguish, or a lack of complicated topics could all be considered childish to some degree.
So are you saying that we should add sprites that are dull and unappealing or hurt?

I'm pretty sure he meant something like this. It's not child unfriendly or NSFW, but it's definitely not childish.

Last edited by sharkode (April 4, 2022 20:55:29)

HeHeTeeHeeHee

-GentooPenguin- wrote:
To make it clear what I'm saying, I think that adding new and less-childish sprites and backdrops to the Scratch library, but not removing the current sprites and backdrops - that would make Scratch less appealing to younger Scratchers (under 10-ish) - would make Scratch more appealing to older beginners.

More sprites yes, but I don't expect the ST to add bloody/violent sprites or something awful

Last edited by HeHeTeeHeeHee (April 4, 2022 20:51:21)

sharkode

HeHeTeeHeeHee wrote:
(#14)
More sprites yes, but I don't expect the ST to add bloody/violent sprites or something awful

sharkode wrote:
(#13)
I'm pretty sure he meant something like this. It's not child unfriendly or NSFW, but it's definitely not childish.

RL1123

sharkode wrote:
I'm pretty sure he meant something like this. It's it's not child unfriendly friendly or NSFW, but it's definitely not childish.

However, it does not fit his criteria. The plane is still brightly colored with orange and yellow.

_3qp

Can you give an example of a “less childish” sprite?

sharkode

RL1123 wrote:
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sharkode wrote:
I'm pretty sure he meant something like this. It's not child unfriendly or NSFW, but it's definitely not childish.
However, it does not fit his criteria. The plane is still brightly colored with orange and yellow.

OP never said there can't be bright colours, and bright colour doesn't automatically mean “childish”, plus when added the plane should just be a blank sprite (I just grabbed the plane from one of my projects).

Last edited by sharkode (April 4, 2022 21:36:01)

64lu

i love mature sprites:

i’m not too convinced that the current sprite library is making scratch less appealing to older coders

musicROCKS013

No support. Scratch already provides lots of options for users to draw their own sprites, and scratch encourages creativity. The beginning sprites are helpful for a user's first couple of projects to get them introduced to scratch, but after that the costume library likely shouldn't be needed.

EDIT: Plus, can you please elaborate on what kind of sprites you would like to see appear into the library?

Last edited by musicROCKS013 (April 5, 2022 03:23:11)

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