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Gato_Amigo111
Scratcher
500+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

The community guidelines (cg) of scratch are very vague. Things like “scratchers are respectful” don't tell me much about whats allowed and whats not. I think the scratch team (st) should make the guidelines more clear like what constitutes being “respectful” and what doesn't. This would also help with the problem of people being banned controversially since the cg would be clear.

Also, the cg doesn't say everything that's not allowed. The st banns people for things that were never mentioned in the community guidelines. Adding more to the cg would greatly help with regulation in scratch, keeping it finite and precise.

when green flag clicked
repeat until <This discussion shut down by the st. >
ask [Please Help. ] and wait
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If you are an st member, please consider adding strong clarity to the cg. Thanks!!! -Gato_Amigo111
Please no arguing on this forum about bans, we don't want this shut down.

Last edited by Gato_Amigo111 (Feb. 16, 2022 22:55:32)

-AMETHYSTQUEEN-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

I would have to agree here. I've gotten notifications from the ST about making comments that ‘Don’t Follow the Community Guidelines' and I read the comment over, and look at the Community Guidelines and there's nothing that specifically says you can't do what I did(I'm not saying what it was about though).

I think the Community Guidelines needs to be more specific to what's allowed and what's not. It would help us all understand better as to what exactly isn't allowed.
I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Use common sense, I'm sure you know what's good or bad

Last edited by I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF (Feb. 17, 2022 21:48:55)

ideapad-320
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

The community guidelines (cg) of scratch are very vague. Things like “scratchers are respectful” don't tell me much about whats allowed and whats not. I think the scratch team (st) should make the guidelines more clear like what constitutes being “respectful” and what doesn't. This would also help with the problem of people being banned controversially since the cg would be clear.

Also, the cg doesn't say everything that's not allowed. The st banns people for things that were never mentioned in the community guidelines. Adding more to the cg would greatly help with regulation in scratch, keeping it finite and precise.

when green flag clicked
repeat until <This discussion shut down by the st. >
ask [Please Help. ] and wait
end

If you are an st member, please consider adding strong clarity to the cg. Thanks!!! -Gato_Amigo111
Please no arguing on this forum about bans, we don't want this shut down.

community guidelines wrote:

When commenting on a project, remember to say something you like about it, offer suggestions, and be kind, not critical.
WHY do they have to be mutually exclusive?
I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

community guidelines wrote:

be kind, not critical.
I'm sure they could elaborate on what critical means for them
I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

downloadinq wrote:

Yesss I support alot
Please state why
qloakonscratch
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

You can read the Terms of Use if you want an in-depth look into the Community Guidelines.

The Community Guidelines are for people who cannot or do not want to read a lot of words.
Gato_Amigo111
Scratcher
500+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

ideapad-320 wrote:

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

The community guidelines (cg) of scratch are very vague. Things like “scratchers are respectful” don't tell me much about whats allowed and whats not. I think the scratch team (st) should make the guidelines more clear like what constitutes being “respectful” and what doesn't. This would also help with the problem of people being banned controversially since the cg would be clear.

Also, the cg doesn't say everything that's not allowed. The st banns people for things that were never mentioned in the community guidelines. Adding more to the cg would greatly help with regulation in scratch, keeping it finite and precise.

when green flag clicked
repeat until <This discussion shut down by the st. >
ask [Please Help. ] and wait
end

If you are an st member, please consider adding strong clarity to the cg. Thanks!!! -Gato_Amigo111
Please no arguing on this forum about bans, we don't want this shut down.

community guidelines wrote:

When commenting on a project, remember to say something you like about it, offer suggestions, and be kind, not critical.
WHY do they have to be mutually exclusive?
The community guidelines are too vague and that creates a large amount of controversy in the community.
7salad3salad
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

It is a bit vague, so i agree.
LightBoy77
Scratcher
500+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

The community guidelines (cg) of scratch are very vague. Things like “scratchers are respectful” don't tell me much about whats allowed and whats not. I think the scratch team (st) should make the guidelines more clear like what constitutes being “respectful” and what doesn't. This would also help with the problem of people being banned controversially since the cg would be clear.

Also, the cg doesn't say everything that's not allowed. The st banns people for things that were never mentioned in the community guidelines. Adding more to the cg would greatly help with regulation in scratch, keeping it finite and precise.

when green flag clicked
repeat until <This discussion shut down by the st. >
ask [Please Help. ] and wait
end

If you are an st member, please consider adding strong clarity to the cg. Thanks!!! -Gato_Amigo111
Please no arguing on this forum about bans, we don't want this shut down.
The thing is that there are like millions of rules but most of them are hidden from the CG.
10goto10
Scratcher
500+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

…The st banns people for things that were never mentioned in the community guidelines. Adding more to the cg would greatly help with regulation in scratch, keeping it finite and precise.
Even though this iTopic on what is reportable is very old it’s very specific. https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/20887/?page=1 And it has links to other references.

It’s very long and actually it should be longer, but it is not being maintained.

However, it’s already too long for anyone to believe that a new scratcher (or any scratcher) is going to read through it and therefore I don’t believe adding anymore to the community guidelines would help anyone. But what might help if their alerts provided more references to what they mean instead of just flatly stating that all answers can be found in the community guidelines.

-AMETHYSTQUEEN-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

The Community Guidelines wrote:

Everyone on Scratch is learning
Are you so sure about that? There's accounts on Scratch made for hanging out with friends, RP's, etc. Not everyone is learning how to code. Sure the majority is, but not everyone.

The Community Guidelines wrote:

…As long as you provide credit to everyone whose work you used and make a meaningful change
What does that mean? ‘Meaningful change’ could use to be elaborated more.
Myst--
Scratcher
100+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Support! The guidelines are not clear at ALL.
Gato_Amigo111
Scratcher
500+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

-AMETHYSTQUEEN- wrote:

The Community Guidelines wrote:

Everyone on Scratch is learning
Are you so sure about that? There's accounts on Scratch made for hanging out with friends, RP's, etc. Not everyone is learning how to code. Sure the majority is, but not everyone.

The Community Guidelines wrote:

…As long as you provide credit to everyone whose work you used and make a meaningful change
What does that mean? ‘Meaningful change’ could use to be elaborated more.
Yes. Those are some very good points.
I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Myst-- wrote:

Support! The guidelines are not clear at ALL.
What is not clear about “it’s important to keep your creations and conversations friendly and appropriate for all ages.”
-AMETHYSTQUEEN-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Myst-- wrote:

Support! The guidelines are not clear at ALL.
The Guidelines can be clear about certain things, but could use elaboration on others.
Gato_Amigo111
Scratcher
500+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

Myst-- wrote:

Support! The guidelines are not clear at ALL.
What is not clear about “it’s important to keep your creations and conversations friendly and appropriate for all ages.”
Exactly define “friendly” and “appropriate.” Give me a list of everything that's not appropriat for scratch at 100% clarity.
I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

Myst-- wrote:

Support! The guidelines are not clear at ALL.
What is not clear about “it’s important to keep your creations and conversations friendly and appropriate for all ages.”
Exactly define “friendly” and “appropriate.” Give me a list of everything that's not appropriat for scratch at 100% clarity.
You definetly don't get taught about that. That's where common sense kicks in. Oh, but do you have any?

Last edited by I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF (Feb. 17, 2022 19:21:35)

Gato_Amigo111
Scratcher
500+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

Myst-- wrote:

Support! The guidelines are not clear at ALL.
What is not clear about “it’s important to keep your creations and conversations friendly and appropriate for all ages.”
Exactly define “friendly” and “appropriate.” Give me a list of everything that's not appropriat for scratch at 100% clarity.
You definetly don't get taught about that. That's where common sense kicks in. Oh, but do you have any?
The scratch team may have a different definition of whats acceptable than scratchers. Actually having set-in-stone requirements would allow everyone to be on the same page.
I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Better Community Guidelines

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

Gato_Amigo111 wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

Myst-- wrote:

Support! The guidelines are not clear at ALL.
What is not clear about “it’s important to keep your creations and conversations friendly and appropriate for all ages.”
Exactly define “friendly” and “appropriate.” Give me a list of everything that's not appropriat for scratch at 100% clarity.
You definetly don't get taught about that. That's where common sense kicks in. Oh, but do you have any?
The scratch team may have a different definition of whats acceptable than scratchers. Actually having set-in-stone requirements would allow everyone to be on the same page.
Okay, let's see your definition appropriate, and we will compare, okay?
Give me a list of everything that's not appropriat for scratch at 100% clarity.

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