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sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

I think it's a good idea if we add a epileptic warning to projects with flashing lights, as something like this might end up saving lives

There should be a box that you can tick that says “this project contains flashing images”, and a question mark that explains about epilepsy once clicked on, it should be something like this: “Flashing lights can cause injuries or deaths to epileptic people, please tick this box if your project contains flashing light”

There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account

If you did not tick the box, you will receive a warning screen when opening a project that contains flashing lights, the warning screen should be similar to the loading screen except it is red and says “Warning, this project contains flashing lights, do not play this project if you are epileptic” in large font

I know you can add the warnings in the description, but not everyone is aware of the issue and not everyone read the description before playing a game

It is mandatory to add a epileptic warning if your project contains flashing light, and there will be a report option for projects without one, epileptic warning will be automatically added if enough people reported a project (similar to auto censoring) and the creator will receive an alert
k0d3rrr
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Epileptic warnings

Edit: Okay, support for all the reasons that have been mentioned (you can report if the warning is on, but there's no flashing lights and stuff and that the severity of the alert and/or ban depends on how many times that person has been reported for including a false epileptic warning).

Last edited by k0d3rrr (Feb. 8, 2022 23:51:23)

k0d3rrr
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Epileptic warnings

Bump.
Autofirejm
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Epileptic warnings

sharkode wrote:

(#1)
I think it's a good idea if we add a epileptic warning to projects with flashing lights, as something like this might end up saving lives

There should be a box that you can tick that says “this project contains flashing images”, and a question mark that explains about epilepsy once clicked on, it should be something like this: “Flashing lights can cause injuries or deaths to epileptic people, please tick this box if your project contains flashing light”

There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account

If you did not tick the box, you will receive a warning screen when opening a project that contains flashing lights, the warning screen should be similar to the loading screen except it is red and says “Warning, this project contains flashing lights, do not play this project if you are epileptic” in large font

I know you can add the warnings in the description, but not everyone is aware of the issue and not everyone read the description before playing a game

It is mandatory to add a epileptic warning if your project contains flashing light, and there will be a report option for projects without one, epileptic warning will be automatically added if enough people reported a project (similar to auto censoring) and the creator will receive an alert

How about warning the user about the project with epilectic problems and they can take it from there? and if a project was marked incorrectly, then the creator would get a “project sharing” mute? possibly for 1-2 days based on how much there was?
7salad3salad
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Epileptic warnings

True, it could save their lives.
If abused, just report it.
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

k0d3rrr wrote:

sharkode wrote:

I think it's a good idea if we add a epileptic warning to projects with flashing lights, as something like this might end up saving lives

There should be a box that you can tick that says “this project contains flashing images”, and a question mark that explains about epilepsy once clicked on, it should be something like this: “Flashing lights can cause injuries or deaths to epileptic people, please tick this box if your project contains flashing light”

There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account

If you did not tick the box, you will receive a warning screen when opening a project that contains flashing lights, the warning screen should be similar to the loading screen except it is red and says “Warning, this project contains flashing lights, do not play this project if you are epileptic” in large font
-snip-
Here's a scenario I just imagined: What if someone abused this setting by switching the warning to on, even if the project didn't have any seizure-inducing content? After a while, if someone who has epilepsy went to play the game, (as in they already got the diagnosis for epilepsy, but they haven't yet changed the setting), then they would see a screen that might say something like this.
I forgot to say you can also report a project if it does that
Actually no, how would you know if a project doesn't have flashing lights? It might do contain flashing lights but it has to be triggered by special gameplay (like throwing a flashbang grenade)

Last edited by sharkode (Feb. 8, 2022 22:28:53)

sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

k0d3rrr wrote:

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
A. Yes
B. No
C. No

Also if a project is intentionally designed to harm epileptic people the owner might be permanently banned
-EmeraldThunder-
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Epileptic warnings

sharkode wrote:

k0d3rrr wrote:

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
A. Yes
B. No
C. No

Also if a project is intentionally designed to harm epileptic people the owner might be permanently banned
The punishments should increase up that scale every time a project is removed for it.
I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF
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Epileptic warnings

k0d3rrr wrote:

sharkode wrote:

I think it's a good idea if we add a epileptic warning to projects with flashing lights, as something like this might end up saving lives

There should be a box that you can tick that says “this project contains flashing images”, and a question mark that explains about epilepsy once clicked on, it should be something like this: “Flashing lights can cause injuries or deaths to epileptic people, please tick this box if your project contains flashing light”

There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account

If you did not tick the box, you will receive a warning screen when opening a project that contains flashing lights, the warning screen should be similar to the loading screen except it is red and says “Warning, this project contains flashing lights, do not play this project if you are epileptic” in large font
-snip-
Here's a scenario I just imagined: What if someone abused this setting by switching the warning to on, even if the project didn't have any seizure-inducing content? After a while, if someone who has epilepsy went to play the game, (as in they already got the diagnosis for epilepsy, but they haven't yet changed the setting), then they would see a screen that might say something like this.
Warning: This project contains seizure-inducing light patterns. If you have photosensitive epilepsy, please seek medical advice before playing this project.
Afterwards, after seeking medical advice (probably), they would start to play the project, only to realise that the project didn't contain any seizure-inducing content, and that it was a waste of their time.

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
It depends on the severity and the amount of times the false warning has been done where the warning has been toggled on, but the project didn't contain any flashing colours/lights that would give the person with epilepsy seizures.

I don't not support, but I also don't support because no further explanation has been given about what happens to the person who gives out the false warnings.
You said it all

sharkode wrote:

k0d3rrr wrote:

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
A. Yes
B. No
C. No

Also if a project is intentionally designed to harm epileptic people the owner might be permanently banned
That's quite light if you ask me
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

-EmeraldThunder- wrote:

sharkode wrote:

k0d3rrr wrote:

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
A. Yes
B. No
C. No

Also if a project is intentionally designed to harm epileptic people the owner might be permanently banned
The punishments should increase up that scale every time a project is removed for it.
Projects cannot get removed for false epileptic warnings, they can only get re-marked, this is a new thing so every existing projects will need to get re-marked, and tons of people are not currently active, which means tons of innocent people will be banned, so no, people will not be punished for incorrectly marking a project

Last edited by sharkode (Feb. 8, 2022 20:24:09)

sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

sharkode wrote:

k0d3rrr wrote:

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
A. Yes
B. No
C. No

Also if a project is intentionally designed to harm epileptic people the owner might be permanently banned
That's quite light if you ask me
How is a permanent ban light? What else do you do? Throw them in prison? Execute them?

Last edited by sharkode (Feb. 8, 2022 20:38:52)

lm1996
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Epileptic warnings

sharkode wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

sharkode wrote:

k0d3rrr wrote:

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
A. Yes
B. No
C. No

Also if a project is intentionally designed to harm epileptic people the owner might be permanently banned
That's quite light if you ask me
How is a permanent ban light? What else do you do? Throw them in prison? Execute them?
You could IP ban them, where everyone who uses your IP can't do anything.
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

lm1996 wrote:

sharkode wrote:

I_LOVE_TO_MAKE_STUFF wrote:

sharkode wrote:

k0d3rrr wrote:

Would the creator of the game:
A) Receive an alert for a ‘false epileptic warning’?
B) Receive a ban for one week?
C) Receive a permanent ban?
A. Yes
B. No
C. No

Also if a project is intentionally designed to harm epileptic people the owner might be permanently banned
That's quite light if you ask me
How is a permanent ban light? What else do you do? Throw them in prison? Execute them?
You could IP ban them, where everyone who uses your IP can't do anything.
It should depend on the severity
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

k0d3rrr wrote:

Here's a scenario I just imagined: What if someone abused this setting by switching the warning to on, even if the project didn't have any seizure-inducing content? After a while, if someone who has epilepsy went to play the game, (as in they already got the diagnosis for epilepsy, but they haven't yet changed the setting), then they would see a screen that might say something like this.
Why would someone do that? It's only making their project more restricted which would lead to less views, it's like purposefully NFE'ing your project to cause confusion
RL1123
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Epileptic warnings

This looks like a decent suggestion that would be useful in many circumstances. However, this is a duplicate.
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

rayli1123 wrote:

This looks like a decent suggestion that would be useful in many circumstances. However, this is a duplicate.
Wait what? I searched on Ocular and nothing came up
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

rayli1123 wrote:

This looks like a decent suggestion that would be useful in many circumstances. However, this is a duplicate.
Should we just use my topic instead? Mine has a way more detailed explanation
jackson49
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Epileptic warnings

rayli1123 wrote:

This looks like a decent suggestion that would be useful in many circumstances. However, this is a duplicate.
I think the following quote from the original post is unique enough from the other topic to not be a duplicate:

sharkode wrote:

There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account

Last edited by jackson49 (Feb. 8, 2022 23:20:01)

k0d3rrr
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Epileptic warnings

Okay, I support this idea (as seen in the edit of my original comment)
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

jackson49 wrote:

rayli1123 wrote:

This looks like a decent suggestion that would be useful in many circumstances. However, this is a duplicate.
I think the following quote from the original post is unique enough from the other topic to not be a duplicate:

sharkode wrote:

There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account
True

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