Put punishments on scratch for people spamming in Scratch github pull requests

dertermenter

Introduction
Spamming on pull requests is bad. It wastes the Scratch Team developers time and resources. It's actually a very serious issue, but to my knowledge, people don't get punished on Scratch because of this.

And I want to change that.
The suggestion
When someone spams on a GitHub request from scratch, action will be taken. If the scratch team can identify their scratch account, they will be hit with a 3-day temp ban. No alerts, straight to the banhammer. Wasting the ST time which could delay updates is not funny and there should be serious consequences.

Last edited by dertermenter (Oct. 28, 2021 11:24:12)

mrcreatorluigi

Now I don’t use GitHub (and too young anyway) but I can see what’s going on here. I know an instant 3-day ban would make updates faster (and less time for the Scratch Team to waste,) but isn’t that a little harsh? Shouldn’t an alert tell them you shouldn’t do that? (Yes, I know you said it’s a “serious issue”)

Last edited by mrcreatorluigi (Oct. 28, 2021 10:08:39)

dertermenter

mrcreatorluigi wrote:
Now I don’t use GitHub (and too young anyway) but I can see what’s going on here. I know an instant 3-day ban would make updates faster (and less time for the Scratch Team to waste,) but isn’t that a little harsh? Shouldn’t an alert tell them you shouldn’t do that? (Yes, I know you said it’s a “serious issue”)

No, it isn't harsh. Users should have the common sense to know that spam on pull requests = not good. Serious action should be taken so a 3-day ban is necessary.

1Oaktree2

What does this mean? I agree that spamming is bad, but I don't really understand “Github” or “pull request” but if it has to do with the site, then if should be punishable

dertermenter

1Oaktree2 wrote:
What does this mean? I agree that spamming is bad, but I don't really understand “Github” or “pull request” but if it has to do with the site, then if should be punishable

I wasn't going to link the pull request, but I will now so people can understand where I am coming from. I don't think it would be name and shaming if I'm not saying who did i, I'm just linking it.

Anyway, see the spam for yourself, and the damage it caused in this PR: https://github.com/LLK/scratch-paint/pull/1698

1Oaktree2

dertermenter wrote:
1Oaktree2 wrote:
What does this mean? I agree that spamming is bad, but I don't really understand “Github” or “pull request” but if it has to do with the site, then if should be punishable
I wasn't going to link the pull request, but I will now so people can understand where I am coming from. I don't think it would be name and shaming if I'm not saying who did i, I'm just linking it.

Anyway, see the spam for yourself, and the damage it caused in this PR: https://github.com/LLK/scratch-paint/pull/1698

What on earth. I just got Rick rolled.
Anyway, spam like that probably isn't healthy for Github Scratch developer's. Support

cloverCat156

Scratch Team has no rights on GitHub sites.

mrcreatorluigi

dertermenter wrote:
Anyway, see the spam for yourself, and the damage it caused in this PR: https://github.com/LLK/scratch-paint/pull/1698

Rickroll spam? Now I’m confused xD
I would add it to the OP, to avoid some confusion. Now that I can see the problem, I support this suggestion as of the “very serious issue” thing.

dhuls

Ivy_Zhangyanchu wrote:
Scratch Team has no rights on GitHub sites.

Despite the fact they own an entire GitHub organization?

Queer_Royalty

I'm not allowed on GitHub, but rickroll spam sounds very serious. However, what if someone purposefully got someone who doesn't have a GitHUb account banned on Scratch? They could just make an account with that username, spam the pull requests, and boom! Someone else just got banned.

_-SassyRainbow-_

I disagree because not all spamming is bad

Last edited by _-SassyRainbow-_ (Oct. 28, 2021 12:14:10)

vudeptrai090211

_-SassyRainbow-_ wrote:
I disagree because not all spamming is bad

Spam stands for StupidPointlessAnnoyingMessage
Is that bad?

dertermenter

Queer_Royalty wrote:
I'm not allowed on GitHub, but rickroll spam sounds very serious. However, what if someone purposefully got someone who doesn't have a GitHUb account banned on Scratch? They could just make an account with that username, spam the pull requests, and boom! Someone else just got banned.

Yeah, I was thinking about this. It’s a big con, but I’m sure there are ways to work around it.

Quantum-Cat

_-SassyRainbow-_ wrote:
I disagree because not all spamming is bad

Whilst some of it can be seen as funny and not all people spam intentionally, it typically wastes the time of others, clutters and interferes with the discussion, which is why it is discouraged.

Last edited by Quantum-Cat (Oct. 28, 2021 12:22:20)

DangerousDawn

vudeptrai090211 wrote:
_-SassyRainbow-_ wrote:
I disagree because not all spamming is bad
Spam stands for StupidPointlessAnnoyingMessage
Is that bad?

Right, no one really likes spam.

Queer_Royalty

dertermenter wrote:
Queer_Royalty wrote:
I'm not allowed on GitHub, but rickroll spam sounds very serious. However, what if someone purposefully got someone who doesn't have a GitHUb account banned on Scratch? They could just make an account with that username, spam the pull requests, and boom! Someone else just got banned.
Yeah, I was thinking about this. It’s a big con, but I’m sure there are ways to work around it.

Ways to work around it by…doing what, exactly? Asking GitHub to collect every user's IP address and then sell it to the Scratch Team for what is technically tracking purposes?

dhuls

Queer_Royalty wrote:
dertermenter wrote:
Queer_Royalty wrote:
I'm not allowed on GitHub, but rickroll spam sounds very serious. However, what if someone purposefully got someone who doesn't have a GitHUb account banned on Scratch? They could just make an account with that username, spam the pull requests, and boom! Someone else just got banned.
Yeah, I was thinking about this. It’s a big con, but I’m sure there are ways to work around it.
Ways to work around it by…doing what, exactly? Asking GitHub to collect every user's IP address and then sell it to the Scratch Team for what is technically tracking purposes?

Many times GItHub account are linked with their Scratch accounts via their profile(s).

sharkode

No support, Scratchers should not be banned for things they did off the site

dhuls

sharkode wrote:
No support, Scratchers should not be banned for things they did off the site

Except in this case it bothers the Scratch Team.

If a user were to harass the ST off sit, should they not be banned?

sharkode

dhuls wrote:
sharkode wrote:
No support, Scratchers should not be banned for things they did off the site
Except in this case it bothers the Scratch Team.

If a user were to harass the ST off sit, should they not be banned?

No they should not be banned

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