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Ciyob86
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Better Project Crash Information

Currently when a project crashes a string that cannot be easily understood by humans is shown (e.g. “44c8e276ae8c4634977dc7218cf17575”), instead a easily understandable error code like “UNKNOWN_BLOCK_OPCODE” or “FAILED_TO_CONVERT_PROJECT” should be shown.

CST1229 wrote:

TurboWarp shows error messages for stuff like this:

ScolderCreations wrote:

There should also be some sort of documentation, that has descriptions of what the errors are and what may have caused them.

Last edited by Ciyob86 (Aug. 29, 2021 21:41:41)

dertermenter
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I think a random string is best as tonnes of stuff can be the code,, marking it near impossible to get the same code. And it also literally gives you a description of what it is, so why do humans need to understand it anyway.
Ciyob86
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dertermenter wrote:

it also literally gives you a description of what it is
No
dertermenter
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Ciyob86 wrote:

dertermenter wrote:

it also literally gives you a description of what it is
No
“Here is the ID this happened” I think tells you what it is.
Ciyob86
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dertermenter wrote:

Ciyob86 wrote:

dertermenter wrote:

it also literally gives you a description of what it is
No
I think tells you what it is.
No, it just gives you a random id as I explained in the post.
https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/projects/881789/

Last edited by Ciyob86 (Aug. 25, 2021 16:43:32)

Ciyob86
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Removed

Last edited by Ciyob86 (Aug. 25, 2021 17:51:55)

Xolay
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Support. IDs can make people confused.
Xolay
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Here's my mockup

Last edited by Xolay (Aug. 25, 2021 18:00:32)

Quantum-Cat
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I don't think it is just a number with no meaning. It might look confusing to people, but understandable by computers.

Last edited by Quantum-Cat (Aug. 26, 2021 08:49:45)

StillTalksInBlocks
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Quantum-Cat wrote:

I don't think it is just a number with no meaning. It might look confusing to people, but understandable by computers.

The point is that it's difficult for the human project creator to debug. ::looks
Tunde123
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Xolay wrote:

Here's my mockup
Image wasn't loaded for me for some reason.
CST1229
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TurboWarp shows error messages for stuff like this:



I think it's best to do it like that.

Also, I think the “string not understandable for humans” isn't actually an error code, just basically an error report “ID” for identifying the report in the Scratch Team's error tracker or something.

Last edited by CST1229 (Aug. 25, 2021 18:36:33)

Ciyob86
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CST1229 wrote:

TurboWarp shows error messages for stuff like this:



I think it's best to do it like that.
I'll add that to the op
BanMeOS
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Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Here's my mockup
Image wasn't loaded for me for some reason.
It did, it’s just it showed an error message so it looked like it didn’t
CST1229
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Also, why did you add the “also” to my quote?
Tunde123
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BanMeOS wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Here's my mockup
Image wasn't loaded for me for some reason.
It did, it’s just it showed an error message so it looked like it didn’t
Yeah it just loaded for me now.
Xolay
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Tunde123 wrote:

BanMeOS wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Here's my mockup
Image wasn't loaded for me for some reason.
It did, it’s just it showed an error message so it looked like it didn’t
Yeah it just loaded for me now.
Bruh it's a project mockup
Tunde123
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Xolay wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

BanMeOS wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Here's my mockup
-snip-
Image wasn't loaded for me for some reason.
It did, it’s just it showed an error message so it looked like it didn’t
Yeah it just loaded for me now.
Bruh it's a project mockup
I know. It just didn't load for me when I first looked.
Xolay
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Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

BanMeOS wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Here's my mockup
-snip-
Image wasn't loaded for me for some reason.
It did, it’s just it showed an error message so it looked like it didn’t
Yeah it just loaded for me now.
Bruh it's a project mockup
I know. It just didn't load for me when I first looked.
No it didn’t.
Tunde123
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Xolay wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

BanMeOS wrote:

Tunde123 wrote:

Xolay wrote:

Here's my mockup
-snip-
Image wasn't loaded for me for some reason.
It did, it’s just it showed an error message so it looked like it didn’t
Yeah it just loaded for me now.
Bruh it's a project mockup
I know. It just didn't load for me when I first looked.
No it didn’t.
1. What?
2. It was for ME. Not anyone else.

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