Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

My arguments aren't laughable. TheGeneraless's arguments aren't laughable. Superdoggy's arguments aren't laughable. Violin16's arguments aren't laughable.

1. You're completely avoiding the main point of the post, presumably because you know I'm right but still don't want to lose the argument.
2. Yes they are.

I am one of griffpatch's 10000+ followers. There, I said it. I'm not unhappy with being so, nor am I going to complain that “he has to many and it doesn't matter if he had 10 followers.” Nobody should know about griffpatch's great achievement? (Well, after all of the commotion about it dies down. )

Blueinkproductions wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

My arguments aren't laughable. TheGeneraless's arguments aren't laughable. Superdoggy's arguments aren't laughable. Violin16's arguments aren't laughable.

1. You're completely avoiding the main point of the post, presumably because you know I'm right but still don't want to lose the argument.
2. Yes they are.

I am one of griffpatch's 10000+ followers. There, I said it. I'm not unhappy with being so, nor am I going to complain that “he has to many and it doesn't matter if he had 10 followers.” Nobody should know about griffpatch's great achievement? (Well, after all of the commotion about it dies down. )

How is that an achievement? I thought this was a programming site, not a collect followers site. If you are desperate for followers, I suggest you get banned, make a g+ account, and get people to follow you there.

Blueinkproductions wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

My arguments aren't laughable. TheGeneraless's arguments aren't laughable. Superdoggy's arguments aren't laughable. Violin16's arguments aren't laughable.

1. You're completely avoiding the main point of the post, presumably because you know I'm right but still don't want to lose the argument.
2. Yes they are.

I am one of griffpatch's 10000+ followers. There, I said it. I'm not unhappy with being so, nor am I going to complain that “he has to many and it doesn't matter if he had 10 followers.” Nobody should know about griffpatch's great achievement? (Well, after all of the commotion about it dies down. )

How is that an achievement? I thought this was a programming site, not a collect followers site. If you are desperate for followers, I suggest you get banned, make a g+ account, and get people to follow you there.

NoxSpooth wrote:

PJ9 wrote:

This just annoyed me. I kept track of all my followers for 5 years. It was an accomplishment when I reached 100! I'll never forgive you guys for making me lose count! >

For example: Silvershimmer43 is one of the popular scratchers and reached 2000+ Followers. How would I feel if she will never know again where 3000+ is? Seriously, most Scratchers just go on RPGs and make art, and if this continues, there will be a downfall leading to the end.

I like the update ONLY for the comments due to people posting SPAM on people's profiles, but that is just it. Keep following and comment numbers off and leave Followers happy.

In other words, I'll leave it to you. Give us happiness or give us failure!

~PJ9, Lonekat, Bladefang, Flarepelt, and my other characters along with my 100 followers (except 10 quit)

Just press the View All button. Only takes one click.

PJ9 wrote:

NoxSpooth wrote:

PJ9 wrote:

This just annoyed me. I kept track of all my followers for 5 years. It was an accomplishment when I reached 100! I'll never forgive you guys for making me lose count! >

For example: Silvershimmer43 is one of the popular scratchers and reached 2000+ Followers. How would I feel if she will never know again where 3000+ is? Seriously, most Scratchers just go on RPGs and make art, and if this continues, there will be a downfall leading to the end.

I like the update ONLY for the comments due to people posting SPAM on people's profiles, but that is just it. Keep following and comment numbers off and leave Followers happy.

In other words, I'll leave it to you. Give us happiness or give us failure!

~PJ9, Lonekat, Bladefang, Flarepelt, and my other characters along with my 100 followers (except 10 quit)

Just press the View All button. Only takes one click.

That would be A LOT of page flipping, but it should be easy. ^.^

when green flag clicked

say [Good Job!] for (2) secs

Aquaflame wrote:

pokesnail wrote:

lego_ninja wrote:

You said it doesn't matter between 10 or 10000 followers. Actually it does. I'm more willing to check out a 10000 follower scratcher than a 10 follower scratcher. That might sound mean but it makes sense if your just looking for a really high quality game on the go.

It is mean. Just cuz someone has 10 followers doesn't mean they are a bad quality scratcher. It just means that they are unknown.

It's not mean. It's known that people with better projects generally attract more followers.

Scratchifier wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

My arguments aren't laughable. TheGeneraless's arguments aren't laughable. Superdoggy's arguments aren't laughable. Violin16's arguments aren't laughable.

1. You're completely avoiding the main point of the post, presumably because you know I'm right but still don't want to lose the argument.
2. Yes they are.

I am one of griffpatch's 10000+ followers. There, I said it. I'm not unhappy with being so, nor am I going to complain that “he has to many and it doesn't matter if he had 10 followers.” Nobody should know about griffpatch's great achievement? (Well, after all of the commotion about it dies down. )

How is that an achievement? I thought this was a programming site, not a collect followers site. If you are desperate for followers, I suggest you get banned, make a g+ account, and get people to follow you there.

I'm not even allowed to have a G+ account, nor would I want one. Also, you can't program on G+. Also also, G+ doesn't have a swear filter. Also also also, Scratch is awesome. I would never cause that much drama. That would also wreck my reputation.

welllll, maybe on april fools. :P xD (although I wouldn't actually pretend to get banned or do anything destructive… :P)

I'm just trying to convince the admins here to re-implement the numbers, as I feel like Scratch became worse with that update.

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

My arguments aren't laughable. TheGeneraless's arguments aren't laughable. Superdoggy's arguments aren't laughable. Violin16's arguments aren't laughable.

1. You're completely avoiding the main point of the post, presumably because you know I'm right but still don't want to lose the argument.
2. Yes they are.

I am one of griffpatch's 10000+ followers. There, I said it. I'm not unhappy with being so, nor am I going to complain that “he has to many and it doesn't matter if he had 10 followers.” Nobody should know about griffpatch's great achievement? (Well, after all of the commotion about it dies down. )

Again with the evasion.

Superdoggy wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL xD xD xD xD xD xD

This is what people do when they don't have a better argument but they still want to win. They try to make the opponent look bad. In this case, you have attempted this by acting like my points are funny because they are so bad (which they are not). This is actually a tactic used by bullies to gather support. Not saying you are one, just pointing out that saying what you replied isn't a very good thing to do.

jasonyau wrote:

Out of all Scratch history, this has to be the worst update. If you could just click view all why not just save us all some time and just take out this update. And really, I wouldn't rather see a person's project with 10,000 followers than someone who doesn't have a singer follower. And the comment thing? Really? If you can't see the number of comments just take out commenting. Just take it out. I don't care. >:-(
This sucks.
PLZ TAKE OUT THIS UPDATE!!!
plz.

1. If you don't care how many followers people have, why do you care about the update?
2. If you don't care if there is all of this stuff, why are you saying to remove the update?

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

My arguments aren't laughable. TheGeneraless's arguments aren't laughable. Superdoggy's arguments aren't laughable. Violin16's arguments aren't laughable.

1. You're completely avoiding the main point of the post, presumably because you know I'm right but still don't want to lose the argument.
2. Yes they are.

I am one of griffpatch's 10000+ followers. There, I said it. I'm not unhappy with being so, nor am I going to complain that “he has to many and it doesn't matter if he had 10 followers.” Nobody should know about griffpatch's great achievement? (Well, after all of the commotion about it dies down. )

Again with the evasion.

What is the main point of the post? I'm not getting it. I'm not trying to evade anything. -_-

Superdoggy wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL xD xD xD xD xD xD

This is what people do when they don't have a better argument but they still want to win. They try to make the opponent look bad. In this case, you have attempted this by acting like my points are funny because they are so bad (which they are not). This is actually a tactic used by bullies to gather support. Not saying you are one, just pointing out that saying what you replied isn't a very good thing to do.

Superdoggy was laughing at your post because you said all of the arguments against this were laughable. :P

jasonyau wrote:

Out of all Scratch history, this has to be the worst update. If you could just click view all why not just save us all some time and just take out this update. And really, I wouldn't rather see a person's project with 10,000 followers than someone who doesn't have a singer follower. And the comment thing? Really? If you can't see the number of comments just take out commenting. Just take it out. I don't care. >:-(
This sucks.
PLZ TAKE OUT THIS UPDATE!!!
plz.

1. If you don't care how many followers people have, why do you care about the update?
2. If you don't care if there is all of this stuff, why are you saying to remove the update?

Firedrake969 wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Scratchifier wrote:

Unlocked wrote:

Look: None of the arguments against this are any good. they might sound good but to be honest, they're kinda laughable. If there are no numbers, it makes all of those names mean a lot more than a 100 or however many you have. If you really want to know how many followers you have, you should need to acknowledge every single person who likes your work rather than seeing a couple of icons and a number.

Let me ask you this: If you followed someone with 1000 followers, would you like to be seen as one small step to the next milestone of that scratcher in which they thank “you” but are really thanking a few digit on a colorful display of lights commonly known as a monitor, or would you like to be seen as a real person who that scratcher needs to specifically look at in order to figure out how many people appreciate what they do?
I know my answer.

My arguments aren't laughable. TheGeneraless's arguments aren't laughable. Superdoggy's arguments aren't laughable. Violin16's arguments aren't laughable.

1. You're completely avoiding the main point of the post, presumably because you know I'm right but still don't want to lose the argument.
2. Yes they are.

I am one of griffpatch's 10000+ followers. There, I said it. I'm not unhappy with being so, nor am I going to complain that “he has to many and it doesn't matter if he had 10 followers.” Nobody should know about griffpatch's great achievement? (Well, after all of the commotion about it dies down. )

How is that an achievement? I thought this was a programming site, not a collect followers site. If you are desperate for followers, I suggest you get banned, make a g+ account, and get people to follow you there.

I'm not even allowed to have a G+ account, nor would I want one. Also, you can't program on G+. Also also, G+ doesn't have a swear filter. Also also also, Scratch is awesome. I would never cause that much drama. That would also wreck my reputation.

welllll, maybe on april fools. :P xD (although I wouldn't actually pretend to get banned or do anything destructive… :P)

I'm just trying to convince the admins here to re-implement the numbers, as I feel like Scratch became worse with that update.

It's becoming worse because they took away something that Scratch shouldn't be focused on anyways?

dinocatmeow wrote:

speakvisually wrote:

Hey everyone,

You might notice your profile page looks a little bit different. Profile pages no longer display the number of Followers and Following. (You can still view this information by clicking the ‘View All’ button on the Followers / Following panel.) The number of profile comments are no longer displayed too.

Why do this? We want to make sure people see someone’s projects, studios, and connections and not focus too much on the numbers. After all, it doesn’t matter if you have 10 followers or 10,000. Scratch is a place for creating, collaborating, and supporting fellow Scratchers.

The Scratch Mentors put together an awesome remix project about “What is the meaning of followers?” http://scratch.mit.edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/projects/25999074/ Check it out and see how other Scratchers think about followers! Feel free to share your thoughts too!

I agree! i love that change.

Elsa_The_Conqueror wrote:

You might think that taking away the follow number will encourage people to make better projects. However, seeing the number of followers I have makes me PUMPED to make better projects. Making me press a button to get me pumped just gets really annoying.

speakvisually wrote:

helloyowuzzup wrote:

I have to say that I don't love the personal statistics page. It makes things even more competitive than before, if you ask me.

Aquaflame wrote:

speakvisually wrote:

Aquaflame wrote:

Maybe each person can have a personal statistics page. It could show who followed you that day, how many comments you received that day, and how many loves/favorites you got each day. It could also show past statistics, and how today compared to yesterday.

Ah, we've actually been discussing something like this! It could be more or less a page of statistics for each account. What would you like to see on this page?

I'd like to see today's statistics, a comparison of today's statistics to yesterday's statistics, and overall statistics of the account.

More specifically, I'd like to see:

• Number of messages during the timespan
  
• Follows during the the timespan
  
• Loves and favorites during the timespan
  

Also, maybe there could be more customization for profiles? Like setting a background image (or color), selecting what will be on the “What I've been doing” section, and choosing different layouts.

Ahh. I just spoke with Natalie on the Scratch team who mentioned the idea.

It turns out the idea was more focused on statistics around projects such as blocks used or perhaps other milestones like ‘remixed a project.’ Not so much on Followers and Love Its / Favorites. So, I apologize for misspeaking!

But, I do think it's interesting to hear your suggestion on being more aware of what is going with those statistics.

Scratchifier wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

lots of stuff

Are you sure on that? Quote from the Legal DMCA page: "We hope you also see Scratch not only as a good way of popularizing your creations/website but also as an opportunity to do something good for children’s education."