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lapisi
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1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

PenguinLover1123 wrote:

No support, due to this:

dhuls wrote:

I also think the ST trusts all of the image hosts enough so that no inappropriate content gets on Scratch, and a lot of images come from Wikimedia Commons.
once again, vandalism can change Wikipedia images at random, meaning even if the image isn't inappropriate now, it could change at any time, causing you to get alerted and possibly banned, if you look at the Scratch Wiki page for image hosting, you can see that Scratch stopped allowing Imgur to be used as an image host for having inappropriate images, meaning that can happen
jackson49
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1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

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jackson49
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stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

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dhuls
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1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

lapisi wrote:

PenguinLover1123 wrote:

No support, due to this:

dhuls wrote:

I also think the ST trusts all of the image hosts enough so that no inappropriate content gets on Scratch, and a lot of images come from Wikimedia Commons.
once again, vandalism can change Wikipedia images at random, meaning even if the image isn't inappropriate now, it could change at any time, causing you to get alerted and possibly banned, if you look at the Scratch Wiki page for image hosting, you can see that Scratch stopped allowing Imgur to be used as an image host for having inappropriate images, meaning that can happen
Images that do get vandalized get reverted extremely quickly (and the vandal blocked) so again, I don't see the point.
-gge
Scratcher
1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

lapisi wrote:

this has the potential for inappropriate images to accidentally be uploaded to the Scratch Forums because at the time of uploading they weren't inappropriate
the april fools images are seperate from the regular images
Pharynelsius
New Scratcher
9 posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

Can't anyone upload any image they'd like on the whitelisted hosts? I don't see why Wikipedia is an exception.
ScolderCreations
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1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

Pharynelsius wrote:

Can't anyone upload any image they'd like on the whitelisted hosts? I don't see why Wikipedia is an exception.
wiKipedia images can be changed by anyone
dhuls
Scratcher
1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

ScolderCreations wrote:

Pharynelsius wrote:

Can't anyone upload any image they'd like on the whitelisted hosts? I don't see why Wikipedia is an exception.
wiKipedia images can be changed by anyone
Which also means vandalism can be reverted by anyone.
LegoManiac04
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1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

dhuls wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

Pharynelsius wrote:

Can't anyone upload any image they'd like on the whitelisted hosts? I don't see why Wikipedia is an exception.
wiKipedia images can be changed by anyone
Which also means vandalism can be reverted by anyone.
The issue though is someone could upload a harmless image, someone could change it to something against the CGs, and then if anyone sees and reports it, the user will get in trouble, simply because they linked to that image. I don't think we could really blame it on the person who changed it.
lapisi
Scratcher
1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

dhuls wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

Pharynelsius wrote:

Can't anyone upload any image they'd like on the whitelisted hosts? I don't see why Wikipedia is an exception.
wiKipedia images can be changed by anyone
Which also means vandalism can be reverted by anyone.
and then if it gets reverted before the report is seen by the ST then the person who reported it would get an alert for false reporting even though it was inappropriate when it was reported
Codingfairy07
Scratcher
500+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

lapisi wrote:

once again, vandalism can change Wikipedia images at random, meaning even if the image isn't inappropriate now, it could change at any time, causing you to get alerted and possibly banned.
Same as the scratch wiki.
DangerousDawn
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1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

Xolay wrote:

dhuls wrote:

jackson49 wrote:

dhuls wrote:

hiPeeps124816 wrote:

k7e wrote:

There are also some bad images on Wikipedia which might show up on the forums.
thats an understatement
support wikipedia isnt just for kids
The same can be said for literally every other whitelisted image host (even Scratch, as it's for 8-16)
True, but Scratch moderation is better than Wikipedia
Also true, but the other image hosts…

I also think the ST trusts all of the image hosts enough so that no inappropriate content gets on Scratch, and a lot of images come from Wikimedia Commons.
but if wikipedia gets banned I have to log in and I wont get any image in my siganture
???
9cjames1
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1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

lapisi wrote:

dhuls wrote:

ScolderCreations wrote:

Pharynelsius wrote:

Can't anyone upload any image they'd like on the whitelisted hosts? I don't see why Wikipedia is an exception.
wiKipedia images can be changed by anyone
Which also means vandalism can be reverted by anyone.
and then if it gets reverted before the report is seen by the ST then the person who reported it would get an alert for false reporting even though it was inappropriate when it was reported
You only get alerted for false reporting if you've done it multiple times.
ILikeProggraming123
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100+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

Codingfairy07 wrote:

lapisi wrote:

once again, vandalism can change Wikipedia images at random, meaning even if the image isn't inappropriate now, it could change at any time, causing you to get alerted and possibly banned.
Same as the scratch wiki.

Well yes, but actually no.

The Scratch Wiki allows less people to edit than Wikipedia, AND is censored, unlike Wikipedia, so the Scratch Wiki is more secure than Wikipedia.

Also, support.
dhuls
Scratcher
1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

ILikeProggraming123 wrote:

Codingfairy07 wrote:

lapisi wrote:

once again, vandalism can change Wikipedia images at random, meaning even if the image isn't inappropriate now, it could change at any time, causing you to get alerted and possibly banned.
Same as the scratch wiki.

Well yes, but actually no.

The Scratch Wiki allows less people to edit than Wikipedia, AND is censored, unlike Wikipedia, so the Scratch Wiki is more secure than Wikipedia.

Also, support.
Every image has an Undo button, and the AF images are separate from the regular images.

And since Wikipedia has such a high amount of editors, vandalism is reverted so quickly you probably won't get into any trouble on Scratch.
Xolay
Scratcher
1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

dhuls wrote:

ILikeProggraming123 wrote:

Codingfairy07 wrote:

lapisi wrote:

once again, vandalism can change Wikipedia images at random, meaning even if the image isn't inappropriate now, it could change at any time, causing you to get alerted and possibly banned.
Same as the scratch wiki.

Well yes, but actually no.

The Scratch Wiki allows less people to edit than Wikipedia, AND is censored, unlike Wikipedia, so the Scratch Wiki is more secure than Wikipedia.

Also, support.
Every image has an Undo button, and the AF images are separate from the regular images.

And since Wikipedia has such a high amount of editors, vandalism is reverted so quickly you probably won't get into any trouble on Scratch.
scratch wiki has no vandalism, so swiki is fine

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Codingfairy07
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stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

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dhuls
Scratcher
1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

If we ban Wikipedia, we should also ban Imageshack, as, according to the Wiki
It has been also reported that the images can “expire” over time and be replaced with an advertisement.
(apparently, the pot has been dustbinned)

Last edited by dhuls (Aug. 18, 2021 17:50:58)

Codingfairy07
Scratcher
500+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

dhuls wrote:

If we ban Wikipedia, we should also ban Imageshack, as, according to the Wiki
It has been also reported that the images can “expire” over time and be replaced with an advertisement.
(src)
Also, imageshack costs money.

Last edited by Codingfairy07 (Aug. 18, 2021 17:49:59)

lapisi
Scratcher
1000+ posts

stop allowing wikipedia to be used as an image host

Codingfairy07 wrote:

dhuls wrote:

If we ban Wikipedia, we should also ban Imageshack, as, according to the Wiki
It has been also reported that the images can “expire” over time and be replaced with an advertisement.
(src)
Also, imageshack costs money.
I don't see why we shouldn't ban imageshack, if they “expire” and get replaced with an advertisement that is a serious problem

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