“This Account Has Been Deleted”

M1mikyu

So I remember when I was younger and people really liked those “namesnipe” accounts, I had wanted to make one. I noticed that “lol” didn’t exist, so I decided to make my own account called lol. So, I went onto account creation and did the username “lol” but it said “this account already exists!”. (Or whatever they say, it’s something along those lines)
I was confused by this, as there was no person with the username “lol”. It turns out that an account with that username DOES exist, but it was deleted. Because usernames that don’t exist yet and accounts that are deleted all show the same “whoops our server is scratch’ing its head” message, it can cause some confusion on whether there never was an account with that username or if there was one but it was deleted.

Here’s a link in case you want to understand more https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/lol/
(I remembered it as being OMG I wanted to make a username of, but I checked and that account seems to still exist. Huh.)
SO! Here’s my suggestion.

Rather than just saying the standard “our server is scratch’ing it’s head”, it would have an additional thing saying “this account has been deleted”.
And, with usernames that have never been made into accounts yet, it could say “this username/account doesn’t exist!“. Perhaps there could also be a “did you mean….” thing, where it shows similar usernames which are real just in case it was a typo.

For instance, someone tried to view the profile of someone named “cat”, but they wrote “cats” instead and that account didn’t exist. The message will say “is it possible that you meant @cat, @cats1, @catss?” which helps them find the user they were looking for, which was cat.

This could help with some confusion. Let me know if you have any questions.

This adds some more explanation as per why this would be a good idea.

BearSlothCoding wrote:
To everyone saying that showing an account was deleted would be bad in the case that the user doesn't want people to know that their account was deleted: The account was deleted. It now shows a 404 page instead of their profile. And if that person knows they aren't misspelling the username, they now know for sure that their account was deleted. You can't hide that. The page wouldn't say why it got deleted, just that it did somehow. If you went to the sign-up page and entered that username or added a “/followers” at the end of the URL, you would know that the account got deleted. This really just saves those extra steps.

The same user has made these mock ups:

Last edited by M1mikyu (Oct. 4, 2020 20:34:56)

M1mikyu

bump

leahcimto

I think this is a good idea, especially for users who try to pick a username, find out that it is “taken” and try to search for the user and find out later that the account got deleted. I also love the did you mean “@example, @example1, @example2” as it would be a good idea for users that don't remember the exact spelling of the username.

M1mikyu

leahcimto wrote:
I think this is a good idea, especially for users who try to pick a username, find out that it is “taken” and try to search for the user and find out later that the account got deleted. I also love the did you mean “@example, @example1, @example2” as it would be a good idea for users that don't remember the exact spelling of the username.

The example thing would also make sure the accounts listed actually exist.

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS

leahcimto wrote:
I think this is a good idea, especially for users who try to pick a username, find out that it is “taken” and try to search for the user and find out later that the account got deleted. I also love the did you mean “@example, @example1, @example2” as it would be a good idea for users that don't remember the exact spelling of the username.

Would these options include something like if you search @flower and if that user didn't exist, would the search results bring up @fiower (with I in capital)

I couldn't think of any basic inexistent username that had l

Last edited by JPOWERPUFFGIRLS (Oct. 3, 2020 17:11:39)

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:
leahcimto wrote:
I think this is a good idea, especially for users who try to pick a username, find out that it is “taken” and try to search for the user and find out later that the account got deleted. I also love the did you mean “@example, @example1, @example2” as it would be a good idea for users that don't remember the exact spelling of the username.
Would these options include something like if you search @flower and if that user didn't exist, would the search results bring up @fiower (with I in capital)

I couldn't think of any basic inexistent username that had l

Edit:sdifj bsdfifsd osdf the small tags are broken

It's not sensitive to capital. So that wouldn't be implimented.

https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox is the same as https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/ShAjiUi_Da_BlAck_FOX or any other “modifications” Uh- I can't think of a word to describe it.

Last edited by Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox (Oct. 3, 2020 17:11:17)

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox wrote:
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:
leahcimto wrote:
I think this is a good idea, especially for users who try to pick a username, find out that it is “taken” and try to search for the user and find out later that the account got deleted. I also love the did you mean “@example, @example1, @example2” as it would be a good idea for users that don't remember the exact spelling of the username.
Would these options include something like if you search @flower and if that user didn't exist, would the search results bring up @fiower (with I in capital)

I couldn't think of any basic inexistent username that had l

Edit:sdifj bsdfifsd osdf the small tags are broken

fixed it!

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox wrote:
It's not sensitive to capital. So that wouldn't be implimented.

https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox is the same as https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/ShAjiUi_Da_BlAck_FOX or any other “modifications” Uh- I can't think of a word to describe it.

Ok

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox

This would be a really great implementation, and reduce confusion!

Also what if you banned the name recursion it could say "Do you mean @Recursion? And it does that over and over again but then again Scratch would probably get sued by Google and now I'm just rambling…

gosoccerboy5

I think this would be complex, and have no really useful function. The point of a 404 is that it's generally applicable to any request that the server can't find (or something like that).

Sorry, but……

NO SUPPORT!!!!! BWAHAHA!!!!!!

(lol but I no suport)

mtech22

I feel like this would fit under the “This Account Was Banned” catergory. What if you didn't want people to know you deleted your account?
of course that had to be my 2000th post

Last edited by mtech22 (Oct. 3, 2020 23:35:35)

ElsieBreeze

mtech22 wrote:
I feel like this would fit under the “This Account Was Banned” catergory. What if you didn't want people to know you deleted your account?
of course that had to be my 2000th post

You can already tell if an account is deleted rather than just non-existant. Deleted accounts still have a followers page. See: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/lol/followers/

scratchastroLOL

I think this would be considered as rejected.

8.4 Show when users are banned
For privacy reasons, the Scratch Team does not share such account information with anyone other than the account owner. In particular, a banned user may not want to reveal the fact that they were banned to the public.

Ihatr

scratchastroLOL wrote:
I think this would be considered as rejected.
8.4 Show when users are banned
For privacy reasons, the Scratch Team does not share such account information with anyone other than the account owner. In particular, a banned user may not want to reveal the fact that they were banned to the public.

It wouldn't show if the account was deleted because they misbehaved, it would just say the account was deleted. There's a variety of reasons that your account could have been deleted.

M1mikyu

scratchastroLOL wrote:
I think this would be considered as rejected.
8.4 Show when users are banned
For privacy reasons, the Scratch Team does not share such account information with anyone other than the account owner. In particular, a banned user may not want to reveal the fact that they were banned to the public.

Being deleted isn't the same as being banned.

ElsieBreeze wrote:
mtech22 wrote:
I feel like this would fit under the “This Account Was Banned” catergory. What if you didn't want people to know you deleted your account?
of course that had to be my 2000th post
You can already tell if an account is deleted rather than just non-existant. Deleted accounts still have a followers page. See: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/lol/followers/

I know that, actually. But newer users might not.

Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox

M1mikyu wrote:
scratchastroLOL wrote:
I think this would be considered as rejected.
8.4 Show when users are banned
For privacy reasons, the Scratch Team does not share such account information with anyone other than the account owner. In particular, a banned user may not want to reveal the fact that they were banned to the public.
Being deleted isn't the same as being banned.
ElsieBreeze wrote:
mtech22 wrote:
I feel like this would fit under the “This Account Was Banned” catergory. What if you didn't want people to know you deleted your account?
of course that had to be my 2000th post
You can already tell if an account is deleted rather than just non-existant. Deleted accounts still have a followers page. See: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/lol/followers/
I know that, actually. But newer users might not.

WAIT, that EXISTS?! I didn't know about that.

I'm horrible at making these code things. I don't even know what it's called.

Last edited by Shajiui_Da_Black_Fox (Oct. 4, 2020 14:10:42)

Bluebatstar

One downside I can see to this is that some people might want to hide the fact that they deleted their account, but I believe that this is a completely invalid reason. This is because if a user gets banned, that could be embarrassing to some users. Deleting their account is the user's choice. The only real downside I can see is that some people might mistype a user's name, and then think that that account is deleted, but you fixed that by suggesting the ‘did you mean’ box. But how would that box work?

All in all, I can't see too many reasons not to add it, but I also can't see many reasons to add it, either. It just feels unnecessary and situational.

BearSlothCoding

To everyone saying that showing an account was deleted would be bad in the case that the user doesn't want people to know that their account was deleted: The account was deleted. It now shows a 404 page instead of their profile. And if that person knows they aren't misspelling the username, they now know for sure that their account was deleted. You can't hide that. The page wouldn't say why it got deleted, just that it did somehow. If you went to the sign-up page and entered that username or added a “/followers” at the end of the URL, you would know that the account got deleted. This really just saves those extra steps.

M1mikyu

BearSlothCoding wrote:
To everyone saying that showing an account was deleted would be bad in the case that the user doesn't want people to know that their account was deleted: The account was deleted. It now shows a 404 page instead of their profile. And if that person knows they aren't misspelling the username, they now know for sure that their account was deleted. You can't hide that. The page wouldn't say why it got deleted, just that it did somehow. If you went to the sign-up page and entered that username or added a “/followers” at the end of the URL, you would know that the account got deleted. This really just saves those extra steps.

Yep, my thoughts exactly. Can I add this to the OP?

BearSlothCoding

M1mikyu wrote:
BearSlothCoding wrote:
To everyone saying that showing an account was deleted would be bad in the case that the user doesn't want people to know that their account was deleted: The account was deleted. It now shows a 404 page instead of their profile. And if that person knows they aren't misspelling the username, they now know for sure that their account was deleted. You can't hide that. The page wouldn't say why it got deleted, just that it did somehow. If you went to the sign-up page and entered that username or added a “/followers” at the end of the URL, you would know that the account got deleted. This really just saves those extra steps.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. Can I add this to the OP?

Sure. Also, I made these two mock-ups of the pages.

Sorry they take up so much room, I couldn't get Scratch to make it not blurry so I had to use cubupload.

FreezeNova

M1mikyu wrote:
So I remember when I was younger and people really liked those “namesnipe” accounts, I had wanted to make one. I noticed that “lol” didn’t exist, so I decided to make my own account called lol. So, I went onto account creation and did the username “lol” but it said “this account already exists!”. (Or whatever they say, it’s something along those lines)
I was confused by this, as there was no person with the username “lol”. It turns out that an account with that username DOES exist, but it was deleted. Because usernames that don’t exist yet and accounts that are deleted all show the same “whoops our server is scratch’ing its head” message, it can cause some confusion on whether there never was an account with that username or if there was one but it was deleted.

Here’s a link in case you want to understand more https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/users/lol/
(I remembered it as being OMG I wanted to make a username of, but I checked and that account seems to still exist. Huh.)
SO! Here’s my suggestion.

Rather than just saying the standard “our server is scratch’ing it’s head”, it would have an additional thing saying “this account has been deleted”.
And, with usernames that have never been made into accounts yet, it could say “this username/account doesn’t exist!“. Perhaps there could also be a “did you mean….” thing, where it shows similar usernames which are real just in case it was a typo.

For instance, someone tried to view the profile of someone named “cat”, but they wrote “cats” instead and that account didn’t exist. The message will say “is it possible that you meant @cat, @cats1, @catss?” which helps them find the user they were looking for, which was cat.

This could help with some confusion. Let me know if you have any questions.

This adds some more explanation as per why this would be a good idea.
BearSlothCoding wrote:
To everyone saying that showing an account was deleted would be bad in the case that the user doesn't want people to know that their account was deleted: The account was deleted. It now shows a 404 page instead of their profile. And if that person knows they aren't misspelling the username, they now know for sure that their account was deleted. You can't hide that. The page wouldn't say why it got deleted, just that it did somehow. If you went to the sign-up page and entered that username or added a “/followers” at the end of the URL, you would know that the account got deleted. This really just saves those extra steps.

The same user has made these mock ups:

sorry. No support. If there was a very inappropriate username, It's better if it seemed like it never existed rather than deleted..

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