have authorized access from the Scratch Team for embedding (leagal issue in a way)

Basic88

I didn't suggest this because there is a problem with this on Scratch, but a problem with…other websites. I have found some websites that have stolen Scratch projects with no credit! That is illegal (violation of the Creative Commons). As a solution, I suggest websites have authorized access from the Scratch Team for embedding . This will result in websites illegally importing Scratch Projects to have the Scratch Project Crash with an error saying “embedding here is not approved by the Scratch Team”. In no way should this harm Scratch, you can remix, right?

Whitelisted Sites:
Forkphorus
Scratch 3.0 GUI on github

NOTE: THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN AMENDED
Error Message for unauthorized embedding mockup (can be different):

Mockup made by @WaterComesBack

Last edited by Basic88 (July 28, 2020 19:43:13)

Col_Cat228

Uh…

Basic88

Col_Cat228 wrote:
Uh…

…yes?

HTML-Fan

I guess you can dump that stuff. It's one of the hardest things ever to make something executable but not readable.

Basic88

HTML-Fan wrote:
I guess you can dump that stuff. It's one of the hardest things ever to make something executable but not readable.

There isn't much the ST can do about embeded Scratch Projects without credit (something that is illegal under the Creative Commons).

Col_Cat228

Basic88 wrote:
Col_Cat228 wrote:
Uh…
…yes?

I'm quite surprised you suggested this. Scratch's whole goal is remixing. And BTW, this would make it impossible to make ‘hacked’ blocks. (yes, there is the offline editor but who still uses it? We're in 3.0, not 1.4)

scratchastroLOL

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Last edited by scratchastroLOL (July 28, 2020 18:37:36)

Basic88

Col_Cat228 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Col_Cat228 wrote:
Uh…
…yes?
I'm quite surprised you suggested this. Scratch's whole goal is remixing. And BTW, this would make it impossible to make ‘hacked’ blocks. (yes, there is the offline editor but who still uses it? We're in 3.0, not 1.4)

Remixing and Downloading are two different things. Who creates hacked blocks now anyway?

Last edited by Basic88 (July 28, 2020 18:26:49)

HTML-Fan

Basic88 wrote:
HTML-Fan wrote:
I guess you can dump that stuff. It's one of the hardest things ever to make something executable but not readable.
There isn't much the ST can do about embeded Scratch Projects without credit (something that is illegal under the Creative Commons).

I mean, when you load a scratch project, the server sends all the data to you, right? Right.

Col_Cat228

Basic88 wrote:
Col_Cat228 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Col_Cat228 wrote:
Uh…
…yes?
I'm quite surprised you suggested this. Scratch's whole goal is remixing. And BTW, this would make it impossible to make ‘hacked’ blocks. (yes, there is the offline editor but who still uses it? We're in 3.0, not 1.4)
Remixing and Downloading are two different things. Who creates hacked blocks now anyway?

Still, How do the ATers hack blocks? And project downloading is extremely helpful for lots of stuff (like transferring a project to an alt account).
And for the second, I DO i'm trying to learn it

Last edited by Col_Cat228 (July 28, 2020 18:28:51)

Basic88

scratchastroLOL wrote:
just report it for no credit!

The ST can't do much about it. And THIS IS ON ANOTHER WEBSITE WITH A STOLEN SCRATCH PROJECT

Last edited by Basic88 (July 28, 2020 18:28:07)

Basic88

Col_Cat228 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Col_Cat228 wrote:
Basic88 wrote:
Col_Cat228 wrote:
Uh…
…yes?
I'm quite surprised you suggested this. Scratch's whole goal is remixing. And BTW, this would make it impossible to make ‘hacked’ blocks. (yes, there is the offline editor but who still uses it? We're in 3.0, not 1.4)
Remixing and Downloading are two different things.
Still, How do the ATers hack blocks? And project downloading is extremely helpful for lots of stuff (like transferring a project to an alt account)

This is like the eggplant emoji. Sometimes you have to remove the whole thing to solve a problem.

HTML-Fan

HTML-Fan wrote:
I mean, when you load a scratch project, the server sends all the data to you, right?

grkhetan

Downloading is useful. I found a bug the other day with monitors after looking at the json in the downloaded project.

I have also used it recently to transfer projects from one account to another.

DarthVader4Life

How about you need an account to download stuff. or maybe be a scratcher.

Last edited by DarthVader4Life (May 19, 2021 01:08:25)

Basic88

DarthVader4Life wrote:
how bout you need an account to download stuff. or maybe be a scratcher.

Yes, I think that's better.

Flowermanvista

This wouldn't solve any problems with other sites illegally reusing projects at all, because at least on the one site I saw this on, the project was embedded, not hosted on the illegal site's servers. (This is probably some sort of liability thing.)

You could suggest that embedding be disabled, but I'm sure that there are a number of sites legitimately using embedded Scratch projects, and disabling embedding would break all of those.

scratchastroLOL

Basic88 wrote:
scratchastroLOL wrote:
just report it for no credit!
The ST can't do much about it. And THIS IS ON ANOTHER WEBSITE WITH A STOLEN SCRATCH PROJECT

still though, i don't think you can embed scratch projects by downloading them, if that's what the website shows.

HTML-Fan

HTML-Fan wrote:
HTML-Fan wrote:
I mean, when you load a scratch project, the server sends all the data to you, right?

Basic88

HTML-Fan wrote:
HTML-Fan wrote:
HTML-Fan wrote:
I mean, when you load a scratch project, the server sends all the data to you, right?

Changed to “disable embedding”.

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