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LegoManiac04
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

So with recent groups emerging regarding advertisements, it has come to my attention that the site's rules regarding advertising is not clear. While the studio and projects emerged from a group of famous Scratchers that were voicing their opinions regarding advertisements, it quickly turned into a dramatic flamewar on whether advertising is okay or not. I have seen multiple users that disagree with them saying how "advertising on profiles and projects is okay“, and how ”there's nothing wrong with advertising on the projects on Explore". I know that this isn't true… Scratch doesn't allow users to advertise in such places- that's why Show and Tell exists! While I understand that advertising wouldn't become a Community Guideline, as it is allowed in Show and Tell, I think that we need to make these kinds of things more clear. We need to have a page that touches on where you can and can't advertise, and can touch on other things, such as F4F, and how it is okay, but also how you need to understand that not all users do it, and you need to respect that. There are some things in the community that either are not clear, or are something that is extremely controversial. I think adding a place that can adress these things will significantly benefit the community.

To summarize, we need to make sure that things that are only allowed in certain places, like advertising and more “controversial” topics, such as that of F4F, are more clear. I suggest we need another page similar to that of the Community Guidelines that explains such things.
I think this would be highly beneficial to the site, as there are some things in the community that either are not clear, or are something that is extremely controversial. I think adding a place that can adress these things will significantly benefit the community.

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (April 15, 2020 06:48:17)

R4356th
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Support. The number of people who know that advertising is banned will hopefully increase.
LilyMakesThings
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100+ posts

Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Spitting straight facts. This is needed.
Misq
Scratcher
6 posts

Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

This would put many of our minds to rest. It's tough to say our point but its mentally exhausting. Clarification would help the community in a good way. It would also stop the hate we get and flamewars.
MeowyTitan08
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Support!
I heard people saying F4F is not allowed and you should report and shout at anyone who does it.
And on griffpatch's profile people were advertising, i told them to not advertise please, and they said ‘ADVERTISING IS ALLOWED!!’ and stuff. Plus, another thing, once someone makes an account they should be redirected to the Community Guidelines, so they know not to advertise where it isn't wanted.
ResExsention
New Scratcher
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

This is a rather vague area that really needs to be filled in, and I really like the idea. No support.

The Community Guidelines is not a rule book, it's an etiquette manual.

As @LegoManiac04 mentioned, I think we should create a separate page for this kind of stuff, instead of the appending it to the Community Guidelines.
WindOctahedron
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

ResExsention wrote:

This is a rather vague area that really needs to be filled in, and I really like the idea. No support.

The Community Guidelines is not a rule book, it's an etiquette manual.

As @LegoManiac04 mentioned, I think we should create a separate page for this kind of stuff, instead of the appending it to the Community Guidelines.
So something less vague than the community guidelines, but shorter than the Terms of Use?
Maybe it could also include something about copyright and horror/violence, and some specific rules of thumb (“no content scarier than Luigi's mansion is allowed”).
Za-Chary
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

ResExsention wrote:

This is a rather vague area that really needs to be filled in, and I really like the idea. No support.

The Community Guidelines is not a rule book, it's an etiquette manual.

As @LegoManiac04 mentioned, I think we should create a separate page for this kind of stuff, instead of the appending it to the Community Guidelines.
Right, and there are some stuff in the Community Guidelines that, in a way, already cover stuff on F4F and advertising:
  • Be respectful. In particular, don't shout at people who ask to do F4F.

  • Be constructive. In particular, don't advertise a project in the comments of another project.

  • Be honest. Come on, man, don't say “Don't click this” and then post a link to your project. We both know you're advertising.
I do agree with the suggestion, though — but maybe not appending it at the end of the Community Guidelines or Terms of Use. Whether it's a project, studio, or forum post made by a Scratch Team member, I think it's a good idea to make these specific things more clear. I'll discuss this with the Scratch Team later today to see if it's a good idea.
-ABIC-
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

I think the only place where people can advertise is FPC, it's the best place to tell people to do it right?

Last edited by -ABIC- (April 15, 2020 13:55:54)

ab195262
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

LukeManiaStudios wrote:

Spitting straight facts. This is needed.
Why does that say last edited by kaj?
LilyMakesThings
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

ab195262 wrote:

LukeManiaStudios wrote:

Spitting straight facts. This is needed.
Why does that say last edited by kaj?
just a joke don't worry
Life_Tutor
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

SUPPORT
Ludwig71
Scratcher
39 posts

Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

The AAA Is right And As I say
SPAMMING IS NOT RIGHT BUT NOW ITS WORSE WE MAY NEED A WAR BUT WE ALL NE TO FIND TH RIGHT PATH
-Ludwig71
Also
If you are reading this UnkwonScratcher1234 Asking for follows is spam also
ninjagoTEB
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Is this gonna turn out like TEAM UPPERCASE and team lowercase?
Ludwig71
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...


ALSO FOLLOW THE ANTI ADVERTISING COTISATION THERE AWSOME
LegoManiac04
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Ludwig71 wrote:

The AAA Is right And As I say
SPAMMING IS NOT RIGHT BUT NOW ITS WORSE WE MAY NEED A WAR BUT WE ALL NE TO FIND TH RIGHT PATH
-Ludwig71
Also
If you are reading this UnkwonScratcher1234 Asking for follows is spam also

Ludwig71 wrote:

ALSO FOLLOW THE ANTI ADVERTISING COTISATION THERE AWSOME
Please stay on topic.
I understand that you agree with the ideas of the AAA, but this Suggestion isn't for debating on whether advertising is okay or not.

Ludwig71 wrote:

ALSO FOLLOW THE ANTI ADVERTISING COTISATION THERE AWSOME
Please don' t advertise…
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Life_Tutor wrote:

SUPPORT
Please state why you support. Simply saying “support” isn't constructive and doesn't add anything to the conversation.
_

-ABIC- wrote:

I think the only place where people can advertise is FPC, it's the best place to tell people to do it right?
Well, yes. Unless allowed by the user, advertising isn't allowed, but since the FPC studios do basically allow ads, yes, it is fine.
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Za-Chary wrote:

I'll discuss this with the Scratch Team later today to see if it's a good idea.
Wow, thanks! ^^

Last edited by LegoManiac04 (April 15, 2020 14:42:38)

Berricake
Scratcher
69 posts

Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Thank you everyone for their great points! The AAA has been getting a lot of hate recently and we hope that we can spread this message.
iapere02
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

no.
iapere02
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Ludwig71 wrote:

ALSO FOLLOW THE ANTI ADVERTISING COTISATION THERE AWSOME
lets not

ninjagoTEB wrote:

Is this gonna turn out like TEAM UPPERCASE and team lowercase?
I feel like it is
iapere02
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Elaborated "Community Guidelines" or something regarding Advertisements, F4F, etc...

Berricake wrote:

Thank you everyone for their great points! The AAA has been getting a lot of hate recently and we hope that we can spread this message.
you have no points, seeing that you advertised those links in the description of the studo

Last edited by iapere02 (April 15, 2020 16:05:59)

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