Change followers back to friends

WeElites

EDIT: Many people don't agree with friends,what do you think we should change it to, if at all?

I believe that Followers should be changed back to friends. To me, followers feels like the people are lesser than you, but with friends, it feels like they are, well, friends.

Last edited by WeElites (April 10, 2014 20:36:53)

turkey3

It was changed to following I'm pretty sure, in all honesty, because Twitter has it,

WeElites

turkey3 wrote:
It was changed to following I'm pretty sure, in all honesty, because Twitter has it,

Strange. What does Twitter have to do with Scratch?

cheddargirl

WeElites wrote:
I believe that Followers should be changed back to friends. To me, followers feels like the people are lesser than you, but with friends, it feels like they are, well, friends.

In Scratch 1.4, it was originally called “Friends”, but “Friends” implies some kind of relationship between the users when that wasn't necessarily the case. It was more common to see users use the system to get updates on someone else's projects, without actually having a friendship connection with the users. Hence the change to “Followers” for Scratch 2.0.

To put it into perspective, the system was designed similarly to how Twitter users interact with each other (follower system) as opposed to how Facebook users interact with each other (friend system).

Deerleg

WeElites wrote:
I believe that Followers should be changed back to friends. To me, followers feels like the people are lesser than you, but with friends, it feels like they are, well, friends.

Interesting. I feel that way too. Perhaps we should change to something other than friends?

VoltageGames

As Cheddargirl pointed out, it was changed because the users friending users they wanted to follow were not really friends. I think it should be changed to something more scratch-y, if changed at all.

cheddargirl

VoltageGames wrote:
As Cheddargirl pointed out, it was changed because the users friending users they wanted to follow were not really friends. I think it should be changed to something more scratch-y, if changed at all.

To be honest, we're not entirely a big fan of the word “followers” ourselves, and we're open to suggestions. But a few things to keep in mind if anyone has any suggestions:

it can't be “Friends” or any term that associates with a two-way system (such as “Buddies”)
it can't be “Watchers”. Even though it's a popular term on some other sites with a one-way system, we're avoiding that term because it comes off as creepy

Last edited by cheddargirl (April 11, 2014 00:32:30)

VoltageGames

cheddargirl wrote:
VoltageGames wrote:
As Cheddargirl pointed out, it was changed because the users friending users they wanted to follow were not really friends. I think it should be changed to something more scratch-y, if changed at all.
To be honest, we're not entirely a big fan of the word “followers” ourselves, and we're open to suggestions. But a few things to keep in mind if anyone has any suggestions:

it can't be “Friends” or any term that associates with a two-way system (such as “Buddies”)
it can't be “Watchers”. Even though it's a popular term on some other sites with a one-way system, we're avoiding that term because it comes off as creepy

XD

Well, maybe something like Fans. “People I'm Fans of”? Or… Cats. And “people I'm catting”? Gobo-crew? Guacamole?

hppavilion

WeElites wrote:
EDIT: Many people don't agree with friends,what do you think we should change it to, if at all?

I believe that Followers should be changed back to friends. To me, followers feels like the people are lesser than you, but with friends, it feels like they are, well, friends.

There should be followers and friends. Followers are people who want updates on you, friends are mutually appreciated people. Friends for anyone says that you are actually friends with them. If I am annoyed by someone, I wouldn't want it to say that I like them. If they want to follow me, though, that's fine. But friends are actually useful. They are shown higher up, more prominently to show the better users.

snake-2

cheddargirl wrote:
VoltageGames wrote:
As Cheddargirl pointed out, it was changed because the users friending users they wanted to follow were not really friends. I think it should be changed to something more scratch-y, if changed at all.
To be honest, we're not entirely a big fan of the word “followers” ourselves, and we're open to suggestions. But a few things to keep in mind if anyone has any suggestions:

it can't be “Friends” or any term that associates with a two-way system (such as “Buddies”)
it can't be “Watchers”. Even though it's a popular term on some other sites with a one-way system, we're avoiding that term because it comes off as creepy

Maybe friendly acquaintances because we are friendly to each other but we are not exactly friends my mum says some people on scratch are my friendly acquaintances as I don't know them in real life.

WeElites

hppavilion wrote:
WeElites wrote:
EDIT: Many people don't agree with friends,what do you think we should change it to, if at all?

I believe that Followers should be changed back to friends. To me, followers feels like the people are lesser than you, but with friends, it feels like they are, well, friends.
There should be followers and friends. Followers are people who want updates on you, friends are mutually appreciated people. Friends for anyone says that you are actually friends with them. If I am annoyed by someone, I wouldn't want it to say that I like them. If they want to follow me, though, that's fine. But friends are actually useful. They are shown higher up, more prominently to show the better users.

That was exactly what I was thinking. Great points, too.

Blaze349

WeElites wrote:
hppavilion wrote:
WeElites wrote:
EDIT: Many people don't agree with friends,what do you think we should change it to, if at all?

I believe that Followers should be changed back to friends. To me, followers feels like the people are lesser than you, but with friends, it feels like they are, well, friends.
There should be followers and friends. Followers are people who want updates on you, friends are mutually appreciated people. Friends for anyone says that you are actually friends with them. If I am annoyed by someone, I wouldn't want it to say that I like them. If they want to follow me, though, that's fine. But friends are actually useful. They are shown higher up, more prominently to show the better users.

That was exactly what I was thinking. Great points, too.

Tramcrazy

If it was “friends” I would only be friends with people I knew in real life. Following means you will just be notified when the person you are following makes a project. For this reason, I would follow anyone who has many good projects and looks like they are going to make more. If you want to replace “followers”, how about “fans”?

turkey3

Being “friends” makes kids more likely to meet up with a pedifile.

braxbroscratcher

Fans. Nice idea. They should change it to Fans.

ProdigyZeta7

“Scratchfriends”

Done.

seanbobe

WeElites wrote:
hppavilion wrote:
WeElites wrote:
EDIT: Many people don't agree with friends,what do you think we should change it to, if at all?

I believe that Followers should be changed back to friends. To me, followers feels like the people are lesser than you, but with friends, it feels like they are, well, friends.
There should be followers and friends. Followers are people who want updates on you, friends are mutually appreciated people. Friends for anyone says that you are actually friends with them. If I am annoyed by someone, I wouldn't want it to say that I like them. If they want to follow me, though, that's fine. But friends are actually useful. They are shown higher up, more prominently to show the better users.

That was exactly what I was thinking. Great points, too.

support

EDIT:
friends should have to be 2 way

Last edited by seanbobe (April 12, 2014 20:18:53)

seanbobe

noticers

Deerleg

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:
“Scratchfriends”

Done.

Interesting.

cruncherBones

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