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Jonathan50
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

In Scratch 3, text inputs have become round like numerical inputs. Now they can only be distinguished from numerical inputs by trying to type in them (and by their position.) Why was this done? Now, with the absence of Help, it's unlikely a new Scratcher will ever realise <, =, and > can be applied to strings. The ability to add number inputs to custom blocks has been removed entirely. This wasn't necessary, but it is nice.

Also, why were the editable dropdowns used in the list blocks that take indices as inputs (and a few others, but I think those were all replaced with specialised inputs or ordinary dropdowns) removed? These made the list blocks easier to use and understand, and
delete (all v) of [list v]
has been replaced with a seperate block!

Last edited by Jonathan50 (July 8, 2019 04:28:22)

Jonathan50
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Bump.
Jonathan50
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Bump.
Jonathan50
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Bump.
ResExsention
New Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

No support. I'd rather have all the input boxes a uniform style, since just looking at them mismatched looks awful.

Last edited by ResExsention (May 9, 2019 04:12:16)

Jonathan50
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Bump.

ResExsention wrote:

No support. I'd rather have all the input boxes a uniform style, since just looking at them mismatched looks awful.
Why would you expect the inputs to all look the same? (And they don't; the Scratch Team would never get rid of dropdowns and Boolean inputs.)

Last edited by Jonathan50 (May 10, 2019 23:11:30)

--Snowball--
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

ResExsention wrote:

No support. I'd rather have all the input boxes a uniform style, since just looking at them mismatched looks awful.

Yeah, I agree.

Would you stop bumping this topic please, Jonathan50?
StrangeMagic32
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

--Snowball-- wrote:

Would you stop bumping this topic please, Jonathan50?
bump

Semi-Support, I think it would be nice for them to be different, though I think a box like before is too sharp for the design that they have now
[]::grey//too sharp for text input
()::grey//too round for text input
Maybe just round the edges of the rectangles?
AK_Scratcher_54
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

--Snowball-- wrote:

ResExsention wrote:

No support. I'd rather have all the input boxes a uniform style, since just looking at them mismatched looks awful.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree too.

Jonathan50
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

--Snowball-- wrote:

Would you stop bumping this topic please, Jonathan50?
I don't see why. (Also, sorry, I responded to ResExtension's objection by editing my post, so you might have missed it.)
ResExsention
New Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Amending my prior suggestion. Sure, I would really like to keep a uniform style for the text boxes, but I also agree that the booleans and dropdowns can stay. Maybe keeps Scratch uniform whilst allowing people to differentiate.
epicRedHot
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Support, as it's extremely useful to be able to know what inputs are and aren't accepted for any given field.
_nix
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Maybe just round the edges of the rectangles?
Funnily enough, in an early version of Scratch 3.0, that's exactly what they did! But in the end, before release, they ended up making text inputs look just like number inputs. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing having two different shaped inputs was kind of confusing to new users who were just learning to use Scratch, and they wanted to get rid of that confusion by just making number and text inputs look the same.
StrangeMagic32
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

_nix wrote:

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Maybe just round the edges of the rectangles?
Funnily enough, in an early version of Scratch 3.0, that's exactly what they did! But in the end, before release, they ended up making text inputs look just like number inputs. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing having two different shaped inputs was kind of confusing to new users who were just learning to use Scratch, and they wanted to get rid of that confusion by just making number and text inputs look the same.
oh, hmm, well then I guess maybe it's not the best xD
Jonathan50
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Bump.
CatsUnited
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

_nix wrote:

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Maybe just round the edges of the rectangles?
Funnily enough, in an early version of Scratch 3.0, that's exactly what they did! But in the end, before release, they ended up making text inputs look just like number inputs. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing having two different shaped inputs was kind of confusing to new users who were just learning to use Scratch, and they wanted to get rid of that confusion by just making number and text inputs look the same.
But then it can be confusing in the way that someone might try to input some text into an input that only accepts numbers
ResExsention
New Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

CatsUnited wrote:

_nix wrote:

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Maybe just round the edges of the rectangles?
Funnily enough, in an early version of Scratch 3.0, that's exactly what they did! But in the end, before release, they ended up making text inputs look just like number inputs. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing having two different shaped inputs was kind of confusing to new users who were just learning to use Scratch, and they wanted to get rid of that confusion by just making number and text inputs look the same.
But then it can be confusing in the way that someone might try to input some text into an input that only accepts numbers

Yeah, I was concerned about that too.

But isn't everything on Scratch a multipurpose variable? Data types are nonexistent in Scratch, right? Strings and numbers are the same?
CatsUnited
Scratcher
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

ResExsention wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

_nix wrote:

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Maybe just round the edges of the rectangles?
Funnily enough, in an early version of Scratch 3.0, that's exactly what they did! But in the end, before release, they ended up making text inputs look just like number inputs. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing having two different shaped inputs was kind of confusing to new users who were just learning to use Scratch, and they wanted to get rid of that confusion by just making number and text inputs look the same.
But then it can be confusing in the way that someone might try to input some text into an input that only accepts numbers

Yeah, I was concerned about that too.

But isn't everything on Scratch a multipurpose variable? Data types are nonexistent in Scratch, right? Strings and numbers are the same?
While that's true that you don't have to worry about stuff like integers or floats, there's a big difference between numbers and text
Jonathan50
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Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Bump.
Jonathan50
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Make Text Inputs Rectangular, Re-Add Number Inputs for Custom Blocks, and Re-Add Editable Dropdowns

Bump.

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