StrangeMagic32 wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

I must comment on your logo:

First off, the Scratch Team didn't “trick us”. When you created your account, you accepted the terms, including the terms that allow then to see your unshared projects.
Second, they are not stalkers. They are doing this so Scratch can remain a safe place for everyone.

I want to build on this.
If you didn't read the privacy policy when you created your account that's your fault, so they did nothing of the sort in tricking anyone, and also how are they stalkers?
stalker
n. A person who engages in stalking. Originally meant a tracker and hunter or guide of game.
n. A person who secretly follows someone, sometimes with unlawful intentions.

Stalking
Stalking is unwanted or repeated surveillance by an individual or group towards another person. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person or monitoring them.

I don't understand why this whole “Unshared projects can be seen by Scratch” is such a big deal… It's literally to keep everyone safe…

The Scratch Team has to see your unshared projects to save it into the database, therefore you are against having unshared projects?

Dawn_Flame900 wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

sillycrab wrote:

Idc about this because i have nothing in my projects that should not be seen by the scratch team so im fine

Same here, but isn't it creepy?

Exactly. I have projects that remind me of thing so i dont forget about them and i really wouldnt want scratch snooping in my business

Scratch is simply saving your projects to an online database, so you can acces them. If they didn't do this, you wouldn't have any unshared projects. If you have “private” information on unshared projects, Scratch isn't allowed to release it anyway and releasing “private” information is against the terms of use.

Dawn_Flame900 wrote:

Yeah i should have probably read it, but do we really want to read that entire thing?

No, probably not, but you probably should.

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Dawn_Flame900 wrote:

Yeah i should have probably read it, but do we really want to read that entire thing?

No, probably not, but you probably should.

You are supposed to when you join Scratch, and also the terms of use

Think of it like this:
In the real world, if someone is suspected of doing something illegal, law enforcement may be allowed to search through their home.
In Scratch, if someone is suspected of breaking the rules through projects, the ST may view their unshared projects.

These are responsible adults who are being paid to work on the site. They don't hire just anyone - every ST moderation member is a trustworthy person who are doing all they can to keep us safe… and, yes, this does include looking through unshared projects when it's suspected that something is wrong.

It isn't an invasion of our privacy, and, let's face it, most of us will probably never have our unshared projects looked at. There are millions of Scratchers, and only a few ST members - they don't have the time to look through the projects of users who don't break the rules. They're busy handling reports and will likely only view your projects if they think you might have bad things hidden away in your unshared folder.

They aren't creepy people online trying to stalk you and your work, they're people who want to keep the young users of this site safe. It's very important that they be allowed to view our projects, and I don't see anything wrong with them doing so - the only reason you would have to fear would be if you were keeping rule-breaking projects in your unshared folder.

While there are very bad people online, the ST aren't like that - they're moderators we can trust to keep us safe from the bad people.

For these reasons, no support.

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

This whole thread is ridiculous. As everyone has mentioned before, the ST knows what they're doing, and if they have the ability to look at unshared projects, it's for a specific reason. Plenty of examples in this thread already illustrate why it'd be a good idea for the ST to be able to have a look at your projects even though they are unshared.

OP, please stop ignoring those who disagree with you and actually please understand why the ST has the ability to do this. I mean, it's not like the ST was going to view one of your projects and ban you. Banning people isn't the only job of the Scratch Team.

I'd also like to mention that members of the ST aren't random stalkers or anything similar to what you're calling them, they're professional people and being on the ST is actually a real, paid job. They work at MIT, they're not “stalkers”.

This kinda reminds me of that thread that was suggesting to remove the community guidelines…

DreamMist wrote:

Think of it like this:
In the real world, if someone is suspected of doing something illegal, law enforcement may be allowed to search through their home.
In Scratch, if someone is suspected of breaking the rules through projects, the ST may view their unshared projects.

These are responsible adults who are being paid to work on the site. They don't hire just anyone - every ST moderation member is a trustworthy person who are doing all they can to keep us safe… and, yes, this does include looking through unshared projects when it's suspected that something is wrong.

It isn't an invasion of our privacy, and, let's face it, most of us will probably never have our unshared projects looked at. There are millions of Scratchers, and only a few ST members - they don't have the time to look through the projects of users who don't break the rules. They're busy handling reports and will likely only view your projects if they think you might have bad things hidden away in your unshared folder.

They aren't creepy people online trying to stalk you and your work, they're people who want to keep the young users of this site safe. It's very important that they be allowed to view our projects, and I don't see anything wrong with them doing so - the only reason you would have to fear would be if you were keeping rule-breaking projects in your unshared folder.

While there are very bad people online, the ST aren't like that - they're moderators we can trust to keep us safe from the bad people.

For these reasons, no support.

You also must read and accept the privacy policy to join Scratch, it is basically a waiver. Anyone who contests it will probably get banned because you have to read the terms and policies.

NilsTheBest wrote:

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

This whole thread is ridiculous. As everyone has mentioned before, the ST knows what they're doing, and if they have the ability to look at unshared projects, it's for a specific reason. Plenty of examples in this thread already illustrate why it'd be a good idea for the ST to be able to have a look at your projects.

OP, please stop ignoring those who disagree with you and actually please understand why the ST has the ability to do this. I mean, it's not like the ST was going to view one of your projects and ban you. Banning people isn't the only job of the Scratch Team.

Ikr, anyone who is surprised at this should have read the terms when they joined and people who have private information on their unshared projects are still breaking the share policy in the terms of use, you are not allowed to post private information anywhere on Scratch. Although the Scratch Team can access your projects (they have to so it will be saved on the server) they are not allowed to share your information unless it is shared publicly.

Jedibrine wrote:

Ikr, anyone who is surprised at this should have read the terms when they joined and people who have private information on their unshared projects are still breaking the share policy in the terms of use, you are not allowed to post private information anywhere on Scratch. Although the Scratch Team can access your projects (they have to so it will be saved on the server) they are not allowed to share your information unless it is shared publicly.

Exactly! It's not like the Scratch Team was going to dox anyone! Guys, chill.

I agree with users such as @NilsTheBest, @LegoManiac04, and @DreamMist.

But I'm still surprised at a simple thing — for anyone who thinks Scratch is run by “creepy stalkers,” why do you still use Scratch? If I firmly believed that any website I used was maliciously trying to “creep upon” my creations, I would stop using it immediately.

The Scratch Team is not forcing you to stay. As others have mentioned, one must read the Terms of Use and accept them in order to use Scratch. If you can't accept them, then leave Scratch. It is your choice to stay.

This is true of any website, even those which act maliciously. If you don't agree with something they're doing, then don't use the website.

Za-Chary wrote:

I agree with users such as @NilsTheBest, @LegoManiac04, and @DreamMist.

But I'm still surprised at a simple thing — for anyone who thinks Scratch is run by “creepy stalkers,” why do you still use Scratch? If I firmly believed that any website I used was maliciously trying to “creep upon” my creations, I would stop using it immediately.

The Scratch Team is not forcing you to stay. As others have mentioned, one must read the Terms of Use and accept them in order to use Scratch. If you can't accept them, then leave Scratch. It is your choice to stay.

This is true of any website, even those which act maliciously. If you don't agree with something they're doing, then don't use the website.

Exactly, if you do not agree with the terms of use or the privacy policy, then you shouldn't be using the website. If you have private information on unshared projects, it is your fault for putting it there.

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

It legit says in the Scratch Privacy Policy that the Scratch Team has the right to look at your unshared projects! Someone suggested that I make a forum about this, and I thought this would be the best place to do so. There is a studio for this: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/studios/6041058

What is your suggestion?

For them to change the privacy policy, so we don't have to worry about this anymore.

Why are you worried about it? The Scratch Team is a team of trusted adults. It's not like they're going to leak your game to the world. If you don't want something to be seen by the Scratch Team, simply don't put it in a project.

Pfft, the ST adults are probably just 25 year olds who hate kids

hawkmoon908 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

It legit says in the Scratch Privacy Policy that the Scratch Team has the right to look at your unshared projects! Someone suggested that I make a forum about this, and I thought this would be the best place to do so. There is a studio for this: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/studios/6041058

What is your suggestion?

For them to change the privacy policy, so we don't have to worry about this anymore.

Why are you worried about it? The Scratch Team is a team of trusted adults. It's not like they're going to leak your game to the world. If you don't want something to be seen by the Scratch Team, simply don't put it in a project.

Pfft, the ST adults are probably just 25 year olds who hate kids

I'm pretty sure there are members over 25, and I honestly doubt that they would want to work for a website made for kids if they hated kids…

Besides, I'm about to delete my account anyway. I know, it's not like they are going to leak information (If you have it in unshared projects).

LegoManiac04 wrote:

hawkmoon908 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

It legit says in the Scratch Privacy Policy that the Scratch Team has the right to look at your unshared projects! Someone suggested that I make a forum about this, and I thought this would be the best place to do so. There is a studio for this: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/studios/6041058

What is your suggestion?

For them to change the privacy policy, so we don't have to worry about this anymore.

Why are you worried about it? The Scratch Team is a team of trusted adults. It's not like they're going to leak your game to the world. If you don't want something to be seen by the Scratch Team, simply don't put it in a project.

Pfft, the ST adults are probably just 25 year olds who hate kids

I'm pretty sure there are members over 25, and I honestly doubt that they would want to work for a website made for kids if they hated kids…

I mean, obviously, but they seem to not care about the Community or issues within the community so like

Yeah

Jedibrine wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

I agree with users such as @NilsTheBest, @LegoManiac04, and @DreamMist.

But I'm still surprised at a simple thing — for anyone who thinks Scratch is run by “creepy stalkers,” why do you still use Scratch? If I firmly believed that any website I used was maliciously trying to “creep upon” my creations, I would stop using it immediately.

The Scratch Team is not forcing you to stay. As others have mentioned, one must read the Terms of Use and accept them in order to use Scratch. If you can't accept them, then leave Scratch. It is your choice to stay.

This is true of any website, even those which act maliciously. If you don't agree with something they're doing, then don't use the website.

Exactly, if you do not agree with the terms of use or the privacy policy, then you shouldn't be using the website. If you have private information on unshared projects, it is your fault for putting it there.

Do you REALLY think the Scratch Team expects EVERYONE to read the Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and ect.????

hawkmoon908 wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

hawkmoon908 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

It legit says in the Scratch Privacy Policy that the Scratch Team has the right to look at your unshared projects! Someone suggested that I make a forum about this, and I thought this would be the best place to do so. There is a studio for this: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/studios/6041058

What is your suggestion?

For them to change the privacy policy, so we don't have to worry about this anymore.

Why are you worried about it? The Scratch Team is a team of trusted adults. It's not like they're going to leak your game to the world. If you don't want something to be seen by the Scratch Team, simply don't put it in a project.

Pfft, the ST adults are probably just 25 year olds who hate kids

I'm pretty sure there are members over 25, and I honestly doubt that they would want to work for a website made for kids if they hated kids…

I mean, obviously, but they seem to not care about the Community or issues within the community so like

Yeah

And yes, I agree with @hawkmoon908

hawkmoon908 wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

hawkmoon908 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

It legit says in the Scratch Privacy Policy that the Scratch Team has the right to look at your unshared projects! Someone suggested that I make a forum about this, and I thought this would be the best place to do so. There is a studio for this: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/studios/6041058

What is your suggestion?

For them to change the privacy policy, so we don't have to worry about this anymore.

Why are you worried about it? The Scratch Team is a team of trusted adults. It's not like they're going to leak your game to the world. If you don't want something to be seen by the Scratch Team, simply don't put it in a project.

Pfft, the ST adults are probably just 25 year olds who hate kids

I'm pretty sure there are members over 25, and I honestly doubt that they would want to work for a website made for kids if they hated kids…

I mean, obviously, but they seem to not care about the Community or issues within the community so like

Yeah

Really? Proof?

92ebuddy20 wrote:

Jedibrine wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

I agree with users such as @NilsTheBest, @LegoManiac04, and @DreamMist.

But I'm still surprised at a simple thing — for anyone who thinks Scratch is run by “creepy stalkers,” why do you still use Scratch? If I firmly believed that any website I used was maliciously trying to “creep upon” my creations, I would stop using it immediately.

The Scratch Team is not forcing you to stay. As others have mentioned, one must read the Terms of Use and accept them in order to use Scratch. If you can't accept them, then leave Scratch. It is your choice to stay.

This is true of any website, even those which act maliciously. If you don't agree with something they're doing, then don't use the website.

Exactly, if you do not agree with the terms of use or the privacy policy, then you shouldn't be using the website. If you have private information on unshared projects, it is your fault for putting it there.

Do you REALLY think the Scratch Team expects EVERYONE to read the Privacy Policy, Terms of Use and ect.????

No, but if you don't read it you need to be able to be okay with whatever it contains.

LegoManiac04 wrote:

hawkmoon908 wrote:

LegoManiac04 wrote:

hawkmoon908 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

-Accio- wrote:

92ebuddy20 wrote:

It legit says in the Scratch Privacy Policy that the Scratch Team has the right to look at your unshared projects! Someone suggested that I make a forum about this, and I thought this would be the best place to do so. There is a studio for this: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/studios/6041058

What is your suggestion?

For them to change the privacy policy, so we don't have to worry about this anymore.

Why are you worried about it? The Scratch Team is a team of trusted adults. It's not like they're going to leak your game to the world. If you don't want something to be seen by the Scratch Team, simply don't put it in a project.

Pfft, the ST adults are probably just 25 year olds who hate kids

I'm pretty sure there are members over 25, and I honestly doubt that they would want to work for a website made for kids if they hated kids…

I mean, obviously, but they seem to not care about the Community or issues within the community so like

Yeah

Really? Proof?

I once reported a project that broke the community guidelines. (it had music with cuss words) It said,

“Thanks for your report! The Scratch Team will decide based on the community guidelines.”

Then maybe a few days later, I checked the project and it was still there. Either they hadn't viewed it yet or the decided “It didn't break the guidelines.”