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angelthekitkat
Scratcher
13 posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Scratch Community-
I have some friends who were ip banned recently and I've been keeping in touch with them. I think that at least those who have been ip banned should be allowed to use the program! Even though they were banned from the site, it wouldn't be fair to them. Scratch is for everyone. Some users who have been banned love the program, and would like to continue using it although they are not allowed on the site. Would you all be willing to sign a petition to put download links on the ip ban page?

Last edited by angelthekitkat (March 15, 2014 23:48:56)

mathfreak231
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

I support. The offline editor should definitely be available, but it should throw an error if they try to share a project.
cobraguy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

I'm surprised it doesn't already do that. Support!
Sonickyle
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Are you saying that you can't download the editor, or use it, because it seems that even if you're banned, you can use the offline editor any way.
cobraguy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Sonickyle wrote:

Are you saying that you can't download the editor, or use it, because it seems that even if you're banned, you can use the offline editor any way.
You can use it if you already had it before you were banned. If you didn't have it before you were banned, then you'll have to get Adobe Air, then get the Scratch.air file from somewhere else, then move it over to your computer and install.

Last edited by cobraguy (March 11, 2014 16:04:22)

StarscreamClone
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

angelthekitkat wrote:

Scratch Community-
I have some friends who were ip banned recently ( (removed by moderator - please don't discuss specific Scratchers)) and I've been keeping in touch with them. I think that at least those who have been ip banned should be allowed to use the program! Even though they were banned from the site, it wouldn't be fair to them. Scratch is for everyone. Some users who have been banned love the program, and would like to continue using it although they are not allowed on the site. Would you all be willing to sign a petition to put download links on the ip ban page?

Some users were IP banned because of something they never should have posted on the site– or anywhere, for that matter; I highly doubt ST would like to provide services for such users. Unless ST can easily differentiate between the major offenses and relatively minor ones (which I don't think it would be so unless they decide right when they're banning the user), I don't support.

Last edited by StarscreamClone (March 12, 2014 00:09:00)

cheddargirl
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

StarscreamClone wrote:

angelthekitkat wrote:

Scratch Community-
I have some friends who were ip banned recently ( (removed by moderator - please don't discuss specific Scratchers)) and I've been keeping in touch with them. I think that at least those who have been ip banned should be allowed to use the program! Even though they were banned from the site, it wouldn't be fair to them. Scratch is for everyone. Some users who have been banned love the program, and would like to continue using it although they are not allowed on the site. Would you all be willing to sign a petition to put download links on the ip ban page?

Some users were IP banned because of something they never should have posted on the site– or anywhere, for that matter; I highly doubt ST would like to provide services for such users. Unless ST can easily differentiate between the major offenses and relatively minor ones (which I don't think it would be so unless they decide right when they're banning the user), I don't support.
^Yep, pretty much this. The exception would be for cases where IP being blocked is a school IP (which requires a special IP block designed to provide partial function of the Scratch website), but other than that, it doesn't make sense to provide a {free and non-profit!} service who did something so bad that an IP block had to be put into place.
Sonickyle
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

cobraguy wrote:

Sonickyle wrote:

Are you saying that you can't download the editor, or use it, because it seems that even if you're banned, you can use the offline editor any way.
You can use it if you already had it before you were banned. If you didn't have it before you were banned, then you'll have to get Adobe Air, then get the Scratch.air file from somewhere else, then move it over to your computer and install.
Then I support.
turkey3
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Maybe if you're disconnected from the Internet it works.
scimonster
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

turkey3 wrote:

Maybe if you're disconnected from the Internet it works.
If you're disconnected, you can't access the site to download it.
turkey3
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

scimonster wrote:

turkey3 wrote:

Maybe if you're disconnected from the Internet it works.
If you're disconnected, you can't access the site to download it.
Oh, I thought this discussion was about not being able to run an already downloaded offline editor when banned.
davidkt
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Support, just you can't upload a project when you're banned.
StarscreamClone
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

davidkt wrote:

Support, just you can't upload a project when you're banned.
See cheddargirl's post.
xlk
Scratcher
100+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Well, someone I know was IP banned. I sent them scratch 2.0. don't kill me.
seanbobe
Scratcher
500+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

angelthekitkat wrote:

Scratch Community-
I have some friends who were ip banned recently ( (removed by moderator - please don't discuss specific Scratchers)) and I've been keeping in touch with them. I think that at least those who have been ip banned should be allowed to use the program! Even though they were banned from the site, it wouldn't be fair to them. Scratch is for everyone. Some users who have been banned love the program, and would like to continue using it although they are not allowed on the site. Would you all be willing to sign a petition to put download links on the ip ban page?

so forcing someone to get ip banned to access offline scratch?
no support.
AonymousGuy
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

seanbobe wrote:

so forcing someone to get ip banned to access offline scratch?
no support.
*Slight Facepalm*
No, allowing people who are IP banned to access offline Scratch. Right now, if someone is IP banned, they can't download the offline editor.
angelthekitkat
Scratcher
13 posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

StarscreamClone wrote:

angelthekitkat wrote:

Scratch Community-
I have some friends who were ip banned recently and I've been keeping in touch with them. I think that at least those who have been ip banned should be allowed to use the program! Even though they were banned from the site, it wouldn't be fair to them. Scratch is for everyone. Some users who have been banned love the program, and would like to continue using it although they are not allowed on the site. Would you all be willing to sign a petition to put download links on the ip ban page?

Some users were IP banned because of something they never should have posted on the site– or anywhere, for that matter; I highly doubt ST would like to provide services for such users. Unless ST can easily differentiate between the major offenses and relatively minor ones (which I don't think it would be so unless they decide right when they're banning the user), I don't support.

I see your point… My only problem with this is that many of us feel that some of the ip banned users were banned unfairly.

Last edited by angelthekitkat (March 15, 2014 23:49:18)

mathfreak231
Scratcher
1000+ posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

StarscreamClone wrote:

Some users were IP banned because of something they never should have posted on the site– or anywhere, for that matter; I highly doubt ST would like to provide services for such users. Unless ST can easily differentiate between the major offenses and relatively minor ones (which I don't think it would be so unless they decide right when they're banning the user), I don't support.
So? It's not like they'll be allowed to share projects. It's possible to Scratch without sharing to the site.
WaffieTheWaffu
Scratcher
1 post

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Le Supported
contest101
Scratcher
25 posts

IP Banned Users Using Offline Editor? (2.0)

Personalty, I am against IP bans altogether. What about public IPs?

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