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MrFluffyPenguins
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Ihatr wrote:

Arden138 wrote:

Hi
Please keep the posts on-topic
you should do the same

bump because this suggestion would bring a purpose to the requests forum again
MrScratchy09
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Inkulumo wrote:

As per title, I think that this would be beneficial as if someone cannot find a shop they need for something fo rtheir project, they post a post that gets swallowed into the abyss by bumped shops and don't often enough get help.
100% support. It's been over 2 years now and this is getting ridiculous.
TapingAnimations
Scratcher
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Total support. I once put something in the Requests forum once. Got no response. I feel like if this were added, the Requests forum would have more of a use.
Have you ever done anything else in the requests forum? There is literally a shop for everything there, from cloud multiplayer engines to pfps.
Honestly… no. Though I still support the suggestion.
Then you should actually try the requests forum. Stuff gets done there.
I probably would try it more, but I don't understand what shops are at all. And yes, I read the sticky.
You literally just read thier terms, products, then fill out the ordering form.
But why would you want to do that when you could actually make a request in the requests forum?
Terms and ordering forms are a bad idea.
Why is it a bad thing? It's really simple and easy to read the terms and order
fdreerf
Scratcher
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

TapingAnimations wrote:

Why is it a bad thing? It's really simple and easy to read the terms and order
The terms are usually really long, the forms have a lot of unneeded questions, and overall it feels very machine-like and dehumanizing. It's easier to just make a new topic and just say what you want.
TapingAnimations
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

fdreerf wrote:

TapingAnimations wrote:

Why is it a bad thing? It's really simple and easy to read the terms and order
The terms are usually really long, the forms have a lot of unneeded questions, and overall it feels very machine-like and dehumanizing. It's easier to just make a new topic and just say what you want.
Even if you make one a user will just come and tell you to order at there shop
Bluebatstar
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Bump.
If I ever wanted to request something, I would do so in the traditional, intended way, and shops probably make that impossible.
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Total support. I once put something in the Requests forum once. Got no response. I feel like if this were added, the Requests forum would have more of a use.
Have you ever done anything else in the requests forum? There is literally a shop for everything there, from cloud multiplayer engines to pfps.
Honestly… no. Though I still support the suggestion.
Then you should actually try the requests forum. Stuff gets done there.
I probably would try it more, but I don't understand what shops are at all. And yes, I read the sticky.
You literally just read thier terms, products, then fill out the ordering form.
But why would you want to do that when you could actually make a request in the requests forum?
Terms and ordering forms are a bad idea.
Honestly, I disagree, the people who work in shops get employed in those shops because they're qualified, and when just making a topic for what you want, any random person can take the order.
Terms, a bad Idea… tell that to the ToU

Would you rather go to the store to buy something or stand on the street waiting for someone to give it to you
TapingAnimations
Scratcher
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Bluebatstar wrote:

Bump.
If I ever wanted to request something, I would do so in the traditional, intended way, and shops probably make that impossible.

TapingAnimations wrote:

Even if you make one a user will just come and tell you to order at there shop
Bluebatstar
Scratcher
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

TapingAnimations wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Bump.
If I ever wanted to request something, I would do so in the traditional, intended way, and shops probably make that impossible.

TapingAnimations wrote:

Even if you make one a user will just come and tell you to order at there shop
Exactly. I would much rather somebody just give me it then and there.
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Bluebatstar wrote:

TapingAnimations wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Bump.
If I ever wanted to request something, I would do so in the traditional, intended way, and shops probably make that impossible.

TapingAnimations wrote:

Even if you make one a user will just come and tell you to order at there shop
Exactly. I would much rather somebody just give me it then and there.
They were saying the person would redirect you to their shop

Last edited by JPOWERPUFFGIRLS (Oct. 17, 2020 13:37:37)

Bluebatstar
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

TapingAnimations wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Bump.
If I ever wanted to request something, I would do so in the traditional, intended way, and shops probably make that impossible.

TapingAnimations wrote:

Even if you make one a user will just come and tell you to order at there shop
Exactly. I would much rather somebody just give me it then and there.
They were saying the person would redirect you to their shop
I understood exactly what they were saying, I'm saying I would rather a conversation go:

“Hi, can I have this?”
“Sure, here you go!”

than

“Hi, can I have this?”
“Go to my shop and order it.”
lm1996
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Support, the ‘requests’ area isn't as request-oriented as it seems by the name.
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Bluebatstar wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

TapingAnimations wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Bump.
If I ever wanted to request something, I would do so in the traditional, intended way, and shops probably make that impossible.

TapingAnimations wrote:

Even if you make one a user will just come and tell you to order at there shop
Exactly. I would much rather somebody just give me it then and there.
They were saying the person would redirect you to their shop
I understood exactly what they were saying, I'm saying I would rather a conversation go:

“Hi, can I have this?”
“Sure, here you go!”

than

“Hi, can I have this?”
“Go to my shop and order it.”
Well, when you order something in a shop, it notifies all of the staff, that are following the thread, but when you make a new thread, it doesn't notify anyone
fdreerf
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Well, when you order something in a shop, it notifies all of the staff, that are following the thread, but when you make a new thread, it doesn't notify anyone
Imagine if the Suggestions forum worked like this.

Instead of creating topics for each suggestion, you know, like normal people, there were huge conglomerates of suggestions. You filled out a lengthy form and then the staff of the conglomerate create a post for that suggestion and discuss it for you.

Wouldn't it just be simpler to have an index of topics where each topic was a suggestion, and you could just click on it, and discuss it there?
TapingAnimations
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

fdreerf wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Well, when you order something in a shop, it notifies all of the staff, that are following the thread, but when you make a new thread, it doesn't notify anyone
Imagine if the Suggestions forum worked like this.

Instead of creating topics for each suggestion, you know, like normal people, there were huge conglomerates of suggestions. You filled out a lengthy form and then the staff of the conglomerate create a post for that suggestion and discuss it for you.

Wouldn't it just be simpler to have an index of topics where each topic was a suggestion, and you could just click on it, and discuss it there?
This has nothing to do with the Suggestions Forums, they are 2 very different forums with different purposes
fdreerf
Scratcher
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

TapingAnimations wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

JPOWERPUFFGIRLS wrote:

Well, when you order something in a shop, it notifies all of the staff, that are following the thread, but when you make a new thread, it doesn't notify anyone
Imagine if the Suggestions forum worked like this.

Instead of creating topics for each suggestion, you know, like normal people, there were huge conglomerates of suggestions. You filled out a lengthy form and then the staff of the conglomerate create a post for that suggestion and discuss it for you.

Wouldn't it just be simpler to have an index of topics where each topic was a suggestion, and you could just click on it, and discuss it there?
This has nothing to do with the Suggestions Forums, they are 2 very different forums with different purposes
Hmm.. you're right. It's not like I was trying to create an analogy for the purposes of seeing why shops aren't a very good idea in my eyes, as indicated by the sentence “Imagine if the Suggestions forum worked like this.”, instead my infinite monkeys on typewriters happened to type something about the Suggestions forum on a topic about the Requests forum, silly me!
JPOWERPUFFGIRLS
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

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Last edited by JPOWERPUFFGIRLS (Oct. 18, 2020 05:33:58)

fdreerf
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

Oh, and one more thing, while the a lot of the supporters of this suggestion (including me) do not like, know about, and/or care about the Request forum, this isn't a suggestion to ban shops! They'll still exist in their little storm drain in a section inside of Requests, so shop owners should not worry about their shops getting screwed over.

Last edited by fdreerf (Oct. 18, 2020 05:44:14)

TapingAnimations
Scratcher
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

fdreerf wrote:

Oh, and one more thing, while the a lot of the supporters of this suggestion (including me) do not like, know about, and/or care about the Request forum, this isn't a suggestion to ban shops! They'll still exist in their little storm drain in a section inside of Requests, so shop owners should not worry about their shops getting screwed over.
Then what will happen to the Shopping Mall/Shop Directory/Request Directory and other stickies?
fdreerf
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Split requests forum into "Shops" and "Help Requests"

TapingAnimations wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

Oh, and one more thing, while the a lot of the supporters of this suggestion (including me) do not like, know about, and/or care about the Request forum, this isn't a suggestion to ban shops! They'll still exist in their little storm drain in a section inside of Requests, so shop owners should not worry about their shops getting screwed over.
Then what will happen to the Shopping Mall/Shop Directory/Request Directory and other stickies?
They get moved. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

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