TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

Semi support. I agree with it not being proper credit and that it's often ignored anyway, but I feel that removing it without some other kind of plan in place would just make the problem worse as there would just be even less credit. Maybe the removal should come with a message from the ST received by everyone that reminds people to give credit and that not giving credit is a reportable offence?

There doesn’t need to be another plan in place. People should get reported if they don’t give credit.

bybb wrote:

No Support, this can't be done for legal reasons.
All content made by users and OC uploaded to Scratch is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license as per section 4.3 of the Terms of Service.
Attribution is required or it is a violations of local and international copyright laws.

but they must follow these terms of use

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

bybb wrote:

No Support, this can't be done for legal reasons.
All content made by users and OC uploaded to Scratch is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license as per section 4.3 of the Terms of Service.
Attribution is required or it is a violations of local and international copyright laws.

but they must follow these terms of use

Yes, even if they write “None” in the notes, the automatic credit makes it legal.

bybb wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

bybb wrote:

No Support, this can't be done for legal reasons.
All content made by users and OC uploaded to Scratch is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license as per section 4.3 of the Terms of Service.
Attribution is required or it is a violations of local and international copyright laws.

but they must follow these terms of use

Yes, even if they write “None” in the notes, the automatic credit makes it legal.

is reported

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

bybb wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

bybb wrote:

No Support, this can't be done for legal reasons.
All content made by users and OC uploaded to Scratch is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license as per section 4.3 of the Terms of Service.
Attribution is required or it is a violations of local and international copyright laws.

but they must follow these terms of use

Yes, even if they write “None” in the notes, the automatic credit makes it legal.

is reported

What is reported?

bybb wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

bybb wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

bybb wrote:

No Support, this can't be done for legal reasons.
All content made by users and OC uploaded to Scratch is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license as per section 4.3 of the Terms of Service.
Attribution is required or it is a violations of local and international copyright laws.

but they must follow these terms of use

Yes, even if they write “None” in the notes, the automatic credit makes it legal.

is reported

What is reported?

Instead of removing automatic credit, why not bring back the reminder to give credit to original creator when you click Note & Credit? The problems is, removing automatic credit can cause problems such as scratchers getting in trouble.

FutureBlack16 wrote:

bybb wrote:

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Instead of removing automatic credit, why not bring back the reminder to give credit to original creator when you click Note & Credit? The problems is, removing automatic credit can cause problems such as scratchers getting in trouble.

That would work.
Scratch can't remove automatic credit without another way of forcing credit.
The way copyright laws work don't allow it.

I'm Bumping

Support! The automatic credit doesn't really increase the number of people giving credit so it's pointless.

Note that removing the automatic credit will also require users to have to go through the remix tree to find the parent project.

I mean, automatic credit is better than no credit, although maybe the Notes + Credits section shouldn't be deleted when you remix (especially considering some people just use the Notes + Credits for instructions too since it expands).

No Support. Automatic credit is credit.

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

No Support. Automatic credit is credit.

But it isn't, because it's not part of a user-editable feature.

Sheep_maker wrote:

Note that removing the automatic credit will also require users to have to go through the remix tree to find the parent project.

Incorrect, Scratch shows both the original project and the remix of the original project that the new remix is based on.
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I have just had a remix that didn't give credit, I wrote “Hi there! Thanks for remixing! However, it would be really cool if you gave credit in the notes and credits. Again, thanks! ”, let's see what will happen I guess.

dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

No Support. Automatic credit is credit.

But it isn't, because it's not part of a user-editable feature.

But legally speaking it's something that Scratch has to have to avoid users requesting DMCA takedowns and suing other users over copyright infringement.
It doesn't have to be user editable, if you remix a project, there is credit to whoever's project it was, that's all that matters.

dude341 wrote:

Sheep_maker wrote:

Note that removing the automatic credit will also require users to have to go through the remix tree to find the parent project.

Incorrect, Scratch shows both the original project and the remix of the original project that the new remix is based on.

No, they are correct. the bit showing the original and remix is the automatic credit.

dude341 wrote:

I have just had a remix that didn't give credit, I wrote “Hi there! Thanks for remixing! However, it would be really cool if you gave credit in the notes and credits. Again, thanks! ”, let's see what will happen I guess.

Unless they lied in the notes and credits, they didn't do anything wrong.

dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

No Support. Automatic credit is credit.

But it isn't, because it's not part of a user-editable feature.

Sheep_maker wrote:

Note that removing the automatic credit will also require users to have to go through the remix tree to find the parent project.

Incorrect, Scratch shows both the original project and the remix of the original project that the new remix is based on.
_______________________________________
I have just had a remix that didn't give credit, I wrote “Hi there! Thanks for remixing! However, it would be really cool if you gave credit in the notes and credits. Again, thanks! ”, let's see what will happen I guess.

Hey, they actually did! That's good.

dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

No Support. Automatic credit is credit.

But it isn't, because it's not part of a user-editable feature.

Sheep_maker wrote:

Note that removing the automatic credit will also require users to have to go through the remix tree to find the parent project.

Incorrect, Scratch shows both the original project and the remix of the original project that the new remix is based on.
_______________________________________
I have just had a remix that didn't give credit, I wrote “Hi there! Thanks for remixing! However, it would be really cool if you gave credit in the notes and credits. Again, thanks! ”, let's see what will happen I guess.

Well, If it was removed, most new scratchers will still write none in the notes and credits box.

KJRYoshi 07 wrote:

dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

No Support. Automatic credit is credit.

But it isn't, because it's not part of a user-editable feature.

Sheep_maker wrote:

Note that removing the automatic credit will also require users to have to go through the remix tree to find the parent project.

Incorrect, Scratch shows both the original project and the remix of the original project that the new remix is based on.
_______________________________________
I have just had a remix that didn't give credit, I wrote “Hi there! Thanks for remixing! However, it would be really cool if you gave credit in the notes and credits. Again, thanks! ”, let's see what will happen I guess.

Well, If it was removed, most new scratchers will still write none in the notes and credits box.

Why?
Edit: we put it as a law of CG

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

No Support. Automatic credit is credit.

But it isn't, because it's not part of a user-editable feature.

Sheep_maker wrote:

Note that removing the automatic credit will also require users to have to go through the remix tree to find the parent project.

Incorrect, Scratch shows both the original project and the remix of the original project that the new remix is based on.
_______________________________________
I have just had a remix that didn't give credit, I wrote “Hi there! Thanks for remixing! However, it would be really cool if you gave credit in the notes and credits. Again, thanks! ”, let's see what will happen I guess.

Well, If it was removed, most new scratchers will still write none in the notes and credits box.

They don't actually write “none”. It just shows up automatically.

bybb wrote:

No Support, this can't be done for legal reasons.
All content made by users and OC uploaded to Scratch is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license as per section 4.3 of the Terms of Service.
Attribution is required or it is a violations of local and international copyright laws.

A user could be reminded to give credit and if they don't they get banned. I find it very annoying when people steal someone else's work and write “None” in the notes and credits.

To everyone saying automatic credit is real credit:
No it isn't. Scratch still enforces using credit when your remix. The reason this is a suggestion is, with the automatic credit, when you remix, you don't mess around with the Notes and Credits, so it just leaves a “None” message. Basically, removing it will enforce it more to give credit, instead of leaving the “Notes and Credits” blank.