removing the automatic credit

ScratchDiogoh

basically, automatic credit does nothing because:

New Scratchers wrote:
None

and it's very annoying this
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other features (to enhance the suggestion yet)

make the rule “give credit” on CGs
make the link of the project that is remixed in the section “exact copy of the project” in “report”

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Supporters
braxbroscratcher
TheAdriCoolManDude
FloatingMuffins
LionHeart70
dude341
VideoGamerCanInvent
willowmint-
PrincessFlowerTV
OtasGamer64

Semi-Supporters / Neutral Supporters
TheRealNetherBefore
-ShadowOfTheFuture-

No Supporters
bybb
KJRYoshi07
rdococ

Last edited by ScratchDiogoh (Sept. 15, 2018 08:35:21)

braxbroscratcher

ScratchDiogoh wrote:
basically, automatic credit does nothing because:
New Scratchers wrote:
None
and it's very annoying this

Agreed. They either overwrite it or leave it and lie anyway. It should not count as credit.

TheAdriCoolManDude

Support, this would actually enforce the “Give credit” rule to people.

FutureBlack16

Won't it get other scratchers in trouble because they decided to stop giving credits because of automatic credits update?

I think a reminder that pop-up when you click “Notes and Credit” about giving credit to the original creator should be still there.

paws48

FutureBlack16 wrote:
I think a reminder that pop-up when you click “Notes and Credit” about giving credit to the original creator should be still there.

Yeah, I think this would be a lot better, because sometimes you just don't want to add anything.

FloatingMuffins

1000% Support!!! That does not count as credit. Always disliked the automatic credit feature.

LionHeart70

Support, I don't see why it's necessary and it doesn't really count as giving credit anyway.

Note: The “none” text is actually just what happens when a user puts nothing in the notes and credits, not that they type it out. I do think the default text should be changed, maybe to “Thanks to (user)”, or if that's not possible, literally just nothing.

ScratchDiogoh

LionHeart70 wrote:
Note: The “none” text is actually just what happens when a user puts nothing in the notes and credits, not that they type it out. I do think the default text should be changed, maybe to “Thanks to (user)”, or if that's not possible, literally just nothing.

basically, what new scratchers always write when they remix my projects

badatprogrammingibe

The automatic credit was added for the exact reason that new scratchers didn't add credit—so credit will still be given, as scratchers who put “none” will put “none” either way: https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/220389/

There's also no need to right anything but “none” anymore.

TheRealNetherBefore

Semi support. I agree with it not being proper credit and that it's often ignored anyway, but I feel that removing it without some other kind of plan in place would just make the problem worse as there would just be even less credit. Maybe the removal should come with a message from the ST received by everyone that reminds people to give credit and that not giving credit is a reportable offence?

ScratchDiogoh

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:
Semi support. I agree with it not being proper credit and that it's often ignored anyway, but I feel that removing it without some other kind of plan in place would just make the problem worse as there would just be even less credit. Maybe the removal should come with a message from the ST received by everyone that reminds people to give credit and that not giving credit is a reportable offence?

as it worsens, automatic credit is not a real credit

badatprogrammingibe

ScratchDiogoh wrote:
TheRealNetherBefore wrote:
Semi support. I agree with it not being proper credit and that it's often ignored anyway, but I feel that removing it without some other kind of plan in place would just make the problem worse as there would just be even less credit. Maybe the removal should come with a message from the ST received by everyone that reminds people to give credit and that not giving credit is a reportable offence?
as it worsens, automatic credit is not a real credit

But it is.

ScratchDiogoh

badatprogrammingibe wrote:
ScratchDiogoh wrote:
TheRealNetherBefore wrote:
Semi support. I agree with it not being proper credit and that it's often ignored anyway, but I feel that removing it without some other kind of plan in place would just make the problem worse as there would just be even less credit. Maybe the removal should come with a message from the ST received by everyone that reminds people to give credit and that not giving credit is a reportable offence?
as it worsens, automatic credit is not a real credit
But it is.

I do not think the server should give credit, but people!

badatprogrammingibe

ScratchDiogoh wrote:
badatprogrammingibe wrote:
ScratchDiogoh wrote:
TheRealNetherBefore wrote:
Semi support. I agree with it not being proper credit and that it's often ignored anyway, but I feel that removing it without some other kind of plan in place would just make the problem worse as there would just be even less credit. Maybe the removal should come with a message from the ST received by everyone that reminds people to give credit and that not giving credit is a reportable offence?
as it worsens, automatic credit is not a real credit
But it is.
I do not think the server should give credit, but people!

Credit is credit.

dude341

100% support. This is getting quite annoying when people remix my projects and in the notes and credits is “None”.

One time someone remixed my project without credit, I decided to be nice and told them something like “hey! nice remix, but please give me credit, thanks!” and also politely told them that when I said “I couldn't get it to work properly so it only changes size while it's spinning” on the original project that I meant that it's not supposed to change size when it's not spinning (they did the opposite) so I told them if they wanted to fix that.

They just wrote rude comments (forgot what they exactly said) then after a while they pretended to be a robot (for some reason) and every time I replied to them they just said something like “<insert username here> OS: blocked”. They unshared the project anyway. All I did was ask politely to them to give me credit.

I don't think the “automatic credit” (if it even counts as credit) is a good idea, it isn't really credit because it is not part of a user-editable feature such as the Notes and Credits or the project itself.

VideoGamerCanInvent

Full Support. It's very annoying when you get “None” on a remix of your project.

Would anyone consider this a duplicate?

ScratchDiogoh

VideoGamerCanInvent wrote:
Full Support. It's very annoying when you get “None” on a remix of your project.

Would anyone consider this a duplicate?

I'm not sure what they're talking about, but they sure did not talk about automatic credit
note, automatic credit was added in 2016, the topic is 2015!

-ShadowOfTheFuture-

Semi-support. Although I don't think the automatic credit should count as credit, it shouldn't be outright removed. Instead, people should be required to give credit along with the automatic credit system.

My post sounded really weird when I read it

Last edited by -ShadowOfTheFuture- (Sept. 2, 2018 13:40:32)

ScratchDiogoh

-ShadowOfTheFuture- wrote:
Semi-support. Although I don't think the automatic credit should count as credit, it shouldn't be outright removed. Instead, people should be required to give credit along with the automatic credit system.

My post sounded really weird when I read it

basically, the strongest scratchers do not mind that, but the little ones make the cóntio

bybb

No Support, this can't be done for legal reasons.
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