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Botcho_Otkho
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ScratchDiogoh wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

The 410 is for cases that are always and the 404 is opposite
Read my post.
What you want?
Me? Nothing. You just answered me telling me what you told me before.
ScratchDiogoh
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Botcho_Otkho wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

ScratchDiogoh wrote:

The 410 is for cases that are always and the 404 is opposite
Read my post.
What you want?
Me? Nothing. You just answered me telling me what you told me before.
????????????????
ScratchDiogoh
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Bump
ScratchDiogoh
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ScratchDiogoh wrote:

Bump
bybb
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If we're implementing 410 errors, we need to include HTCPCP / HTTP error code 418 “I'm a teapot” so when a user tries to brew coffee with a teapot, they get a error
See:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/418
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324#section-6.5.14
ScratchDiogoh
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bybb wrote:

If we're implementing 410 errors, we need to include HTCPCP / HTTP error code 418 “I'm a teapot” so when a user tries to brew coffee with a teapot, they get a error
See:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/418
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2324#section-6.5.14
what!? 418 is an Easter egg
KJRYoshi07
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I still don't support, because it isn't used much on the internet, so what's the point of it being on Scratch then?
dude341
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KJRYoshi07 wrote:

I still don't support, because it isn't used much on the internet
And?

Last edited by dude341 (Aug. 18, 2018 09:59:33)

KJRYoshi07
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dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

I still don't support, because it isn't used much on the internet
And?
Many people wouldn't know what it is. Anyway, 404 is just fine.
dude341
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KJRYoshi07 wrote:

Many people wouldn't know what it is
So? It's not like it won't have an error message.

Last edited by dude341 (Aug. 18, 2018 10:43:49)

KJRYoshi07
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dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

Many people wouldn't know what it is
So? It's not like it won't have an error message.
Anyway, the 404 is just fine.
TheAdriCoolManDude
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I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
dude341
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KJRYoshi07 wrote:

dude341 wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

Many people wouldn't know what it is
So? It's not like it won't have an error message.
Anyway, the 404 is just fine.
You didn't answer my post.

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
Still technically incorrect. Search engines use error 410 so it can find out links that need to be removed.
bybb
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TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
There is a need because 404 doesn't have two meanings and it never will.
404 will only ever mean “Not Found”
Just like 403 will only ever mean “Forbidden”
Or 410 will only ever mean “Gone”

HTTP Status Codes are designed to have just one meaning so a sysadmin or webmaster or end user in some cases knows what is happening.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
TheAdriCoolManDude
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bybb wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
There is a need because 404 doesn't have two meanings and it never will.
404 will only ever mean “Not Found”
Just like 403 will only ever mean “Forbidden”
Or 410 will only ever mean “Gone”

HTTP Status Codes are designed to have just one meaning so a sysadmin or webmaster or end user in some cases knows what is happening.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
Still, if you think about it, if it is “Gone” it can't be found anymore.
dude341
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TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

bybb wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
There is a need because 404 doesn't have two meanings and it never will.
404 will only ever mean “Not Found”
Just like 403 will only ever mean “Forbidden”
Or 410 will only ever mean “Gone”

HTTP Status Codes are designed to have just one meaning so a sysadmin or webmaster or end user in some cases knows what is happening.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
Still, if you think about it, if it is “Gone” it can't be found anymore.
And? Please read what they said.
TheAdriCoolManDude
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dude341 wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

bybb wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
There is a need because 404 doesn't have two meanings and it never will.
404 will only ever mean “Not Found”
Just like 403 will only ever mean “Forbidden”
Or 410 will only ever mean “Gone”

HTTP Status Codes are designed to have just one meaning so a sysadmin or webmaster or end user in some cases knows what is happening.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
Still, if you think about it, if it is “Gone” it can't be found anymore.
And? Please read what they said.
I did. If it is gone, it can't be found anymore, so if you get a 404, and you knew that page existed, you know it is gone.
dude341
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TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

dude341 wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

bybb wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
There is a need because 404 doesn't have two meanings and it never will.
404 will only ever mean “Not Found”
Just like 403 will only ever mean “Forbidden”
Or 410 will only ever mean “Gone”

HTTP Status Codes are designed to have just one meaning so a sysadmin or webmaster or end user in some cases knows what is happening.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
Still, if you think about it, if it is “Gone” it can't be found anymore.
And? Please read what they said.
I did. If it is gone, it can't be found anymore, so if you get a 404, and you knew that page existed, you know it is gone.

Again, please read what they said.
TheAdriCoolManDude
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dude341 wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

dude341 wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

bybb wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
There is a need because 404 doesn't have two meanings and it never will.
404 will only ever mean “Not Found”
Just like 403 will only ever mean “Forbidden”
Or 410 will only ever mean “Gone”

HTTP Status Codes are designed to have just one meaning so a sysadmin or webmaster or end user in some cases knows what is happening.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
Still, if you think about it, if it is “Gone” it can't be found anymore.
And? Please read what they said.
I did. If it is gone, it can't be found anymore, so if you get a 404, and you knew that page existed, you know it is gone.

Again, please read what they said.
I did, it doesn't mean it has 2 meanings it means Gone=Can't Be Found Anymore.
dude341
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TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

dude341 wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

dude341 wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

bybb wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

I'll just say, there is no need for a 410. What is wrong with 404 having two meanings? Many things have 2 meanings! 404 does well enough, let's say that.
There is a need because 404 doesn't have two meanings and it never will.
404 will only ever mean “Not Found”
Just like 403 will only ever mean “Forbidden”
Or 410 will only ever mean “Gone”

HTTP Status Codes are designed to have just one meaning so a sysadmin or webmaster or end user in some cases knows what is happening.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes
Still, if you think about it, if it is “Gone” it can't be found anymore.
And? Please read what they said.
I did. If it is gone, it can't be found anymore, so if you get a 404, and you knew that page existed, you know it is gone.

Again, please read what they said.
I did, it doesn't mean it has 2 meanings it means Gone=Can't Be Found Anymore.
That doesn't prove your point? The name of the error only tells you the basic meaning of the error. Both errors are actually very different. For example, would you guess that 302 Found means to redirect to another page? You would think that means that means that the webpage exists, but no, that's 200 OK.

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