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- apple502j
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
(I posted it in GitHub, too)
This program has some fonts under SIL-OFL, but it cannot be used under GPL.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html.en#SILOFL
According to the page, SIL-OFL is “incompatible with the GNU GPL”.
These are OFL Fonts.
*Donegal
*Gloria
*Mystery
Apache License 2.0 is ONLY compatible with GPLv3, but scratch-flash is GPLv2.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html.en#apache2
That is Apache License Fonts.
*Marker
Helvetica is copyrighted.
So all the fonts except Scratch violate the license.
Discuss about the problem.
This program has some fonts under SIL-OFL, but it cannot be used under GPL.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html.en#SILOFL
According to the page, SIL-OFL is “incompatible with the GNU GPL”.
These are OFL Fonts.
*Donegal
*Gloria
*Mystery
Apache License 2.0 is ONLY compatible with GPLv3, but scratch-flash is GPLv2.
https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html.en#apache2
That is Apache License Fonts.
*Marker
Helvetica is copyrighted.
So all the fonts except Scratch violate the license.
Discuss about the problem.
- SonicMasterSystem
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Hmm… That's a bit concerning.
- myeducate
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
I doubt that it's that serious. Nobody would enforce a DMCA over a font. I'd just be pointless. Hmm… That's a bit concerning.
- dude341
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
You never know, companies will always want to make money.I doubt that it's that serious. Nobody would enforce a DMCA over a font. I'd just be pointless. Hmm… That's a bit concerning.
- myeducate
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Maybe they'd sue if it was a font used by a company that represented their brand, like Google's Product SansYou never know, companies will always want to make money.I doubt that it's that serious. Nobody would enforce a DMCA over a font. I'd just be pointless. Hmm… That's a bit concerning.
- World_Languages
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
How do they earn money by putting a DMCA claim?You never know, companies will always want to make money.I doubt that it's that serious. Nobody would enforce a DMCA over a font. I'd just be pointless. Hmm… That's a bit concerning.

- TheGamer-
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
How do they earn money by putting a DMCA claim?You never know, companies will always want to make money.I doubt that it's that serious. Nobody would enforce a DMCA over a font. I'd just be pointless. Hmm… That's a bit concerning.
Protection of intellectual property? They wouldn't gain any money directly, but it's for the indirect losses as if the didn't use their rights, no one plus bother paying to use their property.
- apple502j
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
ST knows Helvetica is a toll font,right?
- SonicMasterSystem
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Well, I mean Namco did file a DMCA over a 10 year olds Pac-Man game…I doubt that it's that serious. Nobody would enforce a DMCA over a font. I'd just be pointless. Hmm… That's a bit concerning.
- myeducate
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Well, Scratch is non profit - so it's fair use.
- apple502j
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
But some country, including my country, Japan's act doesn't have fair use clause. Well, Scratch is non profit - so it's fair use.
Scratch is international,isn't it?
Last edited by apple502j (Dec. 28, 2017 12:03:45)
- fromax41
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Well, Scratch is non profit - so it's fair use.
Well, it's not like the owners of the fonts are gonna turn into Nintendo and DMCA everything, scouring the face of the website (and the internet) clean until there is no trace left?
…right?
- World_Languages
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Scratch is not international. It is located in the United States. If Scratch doesn't remove the font because of fair use, the font creator would have to go to the US to make a legal demand, and there is fair use in the US.But some country, including my country, Japan's act doesn't have fair use clause. Well, Scratch is non profit - so it's fair use.
Scratch is international,isn't it?
- SonicMasterSystem
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Does fair use cover non-profit things? I don't think it does… Well, Scratch is non profit - so it's fair use.
- apple502j
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
People think fonts are fair use, but I think we can't use fair use for ALL fonts.
ST doesn't have to use a lot of fonts by fair use. Are ALL fonts really necessary?
and there's no credit - If not needed but credit should be also put.
ST doesn't have to use a lot of fonts by fair use. Are ALL fonts really necessary?
and there's no credit - If not needed but credit should be also put.
Last edited by apple502j (Dec. 30, 2017 00:33:21)
- myeducate
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
We don't even know what version or modification of Helvetica is.
- apple502j
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
maybe We don't even know what version or modification of Helvetica is.https://www.fonts.com/font/linotype/helvetica
- fromax41
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
According to Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107, there are 4 factors that determine whether or not the use of a copyrighted work is considered a fair use:
① Purpose and character of the use
② Nature of the copyrighted work
③ Amount and substantiality
④ Effect upon work's value
Since you might not know what each of those means, let me put that into laymens' terms:
① Purpose and character of the use - Essentially, if the copyrighted material is being used commercially (to make profit) or for non-profit educational purposes. In this case, the font is being used for non-profit educational purposes (I hope).
② Nature of the copyrighted work - What the original copyrighted work was used for (i.e. a font).
③ Amount and substantiality - How much of the copyrighted material is being used. Since there are FIVE (5) potentially copyrighted fonts being used here, in basically original form, this could cause a lot of problems if the creators of the fonts are willing to persue legal action.
④ Effect upon work's value - Whether or not the use of copyrighted material will affect the original owner of the material negatively. This was what I was referring to when I was joking about Nintendo's DMCA practices (post #12).
I am not a lawyer, so please take what I have said with a grain of salt.
edit: I'm apparently bad at spelling
① Purpose and character of the use
② Nature of the copyrighted work
③ Amount and substantiality
④ Effect upon work's value
Since you might not know what each of those means, let me put that into laymens' terms:
① Purpose and character of the use - Essentially, if the copyrighted material is being used commercially (to make profit) or for non-profit educational purposes. In this case, the font is being used for non-profit educational purposes (I hope).
② Nature of the copyrighted work - What the original copyrighted work was used for (i.e. a font).
③ Amount and substantiality - How much of the copyrighted material is being used. Since there are FIVE (5) potentially copyrighted fonts being used here, in basically original form, this could cause a lot of problems if the creators of the fonts are willing to persue legal action.
④ Effect upon work's value - Whether or not the use of copyrighted material will affect the original owner of the material negatively. This was what I was referring to when I was joking about Nintendo's DMCA practices (post #12).
I am not a lawyer, so please take what I have said with a grain of salt.
edit: I'm apparently bad at spelling
Last edited by fromax41 (Dec. 31, 2017 22:12:04)
- apple502j
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Scratch Font is also copyrighted? No way!
https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/93226/
https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/93226/
- apple502j
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Some Copyright Problems in scratch-flash fonts
Don't forget that ST distributes all the fonts used in 2.0
https://github.com/LLK/scratch-render-fonts
FAIR USE?
https://github.com/LLK/scratch-render-fonts
FAIR USE?
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