In the forums, change "New to Scratch" to "New Scratcher"

monstermash3

For some reason, in the forums, a New Scratcher has rank “New to Scratch” instead. I think it should be changed to “New Scratcher” because “New to Scratch” implies that they are someone who is actually new on Scratch. But they could just have a new account, or have decided not to become a Scratcher because they didn't need to. Or they could have been on Scratch for a long time, and just not gotten invited to become a Scratcher because they haven't been active in sharing that much. If it said, “New Scratcher”, that would tell people they had the New Scratcher rank without implying that they were actually new.

cul8er

Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?

duckboycool

cul8er wrote:
Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?

Please read the OP. They explained how that may not be true.

Support. I always found it weird that it was different.

cul8er

duckboycool wrote:
cul8er wrote:
Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?
Please read the OP. They explained how that may not be true.

Support. I always found it weird that it was different.

I did read the OP, I just don't agree. I always assume someone with the New Scratcher rank on the main site is new, unless they say otherwise.

monstermash3

cul8er wrote:
duckboycool wrote:
cul8er wrote:
Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?
Please read the OP. They explained how that may not be true.

Support. I always found it weird that it was different.
I did read the OP, I just don't agree. I always assume someone with the New Scratcher rank on the main site is new, unless they say otherwise.

But with “New to Scratch”, it actually says they're new whether you assume it or not.

cul8er

monstermash3 wrote:
cul8er wrote:
I did read the OP, I just don't agree. I always assume someone with the New Scratcher rank on the main site is new, unless they say otherwise.
But with “New to Scratch”, it actually says they're new whether you assume it or not.

So does ‘New Scratcher’.

duckboycool

cul8er wrote:
monstermash3 wrote:
cul8er wrote:
I did read the OP, I just don't agree. I always assume someone with the New Scratcher rank on the main site is new, unless they say otherwise.
But with “New to Scratch”, it actually says they're new whether you assume it or not.
So does ‘New Scratcher’.

Either way, it is less consistent like this.

cul8er

duckboycool wrote:
Either way, it is less consistent like this.

True. Support for this reason.

jji10

Sounds good to me.

Blaze349

It is literally the same thing.

A new Scratcher is a Scratcher who just recently joined Scratch.

A person who is new to Scratch is someone who recently joined Scratch.

cul8er

Blaze349 wrote:
It is literally the same thing.

A new Scratcher is a Scratcher who just recently joined Scratch.

A person who is new to Scratch is someone who recently joined Scratch.

Good to have the same sort of language for both the forums and the main site though.
I'm fine with either.

jji10

cul8er wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
It is literally the same thing.

A new Scratcher is a Scratcher who just recently joined Scratch.

A person who is new to Scratch is someone who recently joined Scratch.
Good to have the same sort of language for both the forums and the main site though.
I'm fine with either.

Yeah, also the “New Scratchers” forum doesn't really match atm.

monstermash3

cul8er wrote:
monstermash3 wrote:
cul8er wrote:
I did read the OP, I just don't agree. I always assume someone with the New Scratcher rank on the main site is new, unless they say otherwise.
But with “New to Scratch”, it actually says they're new whether you assume it or not.
So does ‘New Scratcher’.

But if someone has seen lots of profiles but is new to the forums, they would know that it did not necessarily mean they were entirely new on Scratch if it said “New Scratcher”.

jji10 wrote:
cul8er wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
It is literally the same thing.

A new Scratcher is a Scratcher who just recently joined Scratch.

A person who is new to Scratch is someone who recently joined Scratch.
Good to have the same sort of language for both the forums and the main site though.
I'm fine with either.
Yeah, also the “New Scratchers” forum doesn't really match atm.

Yeah, I guess that's true. But someone might assume that there's some sort of detector that tells if a Scratcher is really new (like if there is not another account on the same network), and that that's why it says “New to Scratch”.

asivi

New to Scratch reffers to a profile…

kenny2scratch

+1 because (fake) OCD likes consistency~~~~

MathlyCat

duckboycool wrote:
cul8er wrote:
Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?
Please read the OP. They explained how that may not be true.

Support. I always found it weird that it was different.

How does reading the OP automatically deny their opinion? I agree with them, New Scratcher still implies the same as New to Scratch.

duckboycool

MathlyCat wrote:
duckboycool wrote:
cul8er wrote:
Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?
Please read the OP. They explained how that may not be true.

Support. I always found it weird that it was different.
How does reading the OP automatically deny their opinion? I agree with them, New Scratcher still implies the same as New to Scratch.

But not all New Scratchers are actually New to Scratch. They may have just not shared their two projects or not done some other requirement for Scratcher.

Either way, they have decided that they are neutral on the suggestion by now.

MathlyCat

duckboycool wrote:
MathlyCat wrote:
duckboycool wrote:
cul8er wrote:
Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?
Please read the OP. They explained how that may not be true.

Support. I always found it weird that it was different.
How does reading the OP automatically deny their opinion? I agree with them, New Scratcher still implies the same as New to Scratch.
But not all New Scratchers are actually New to Scratch. They may have just not shared their two projects or not done some other requirement for Scratcher.

Either way, they have decided that they are neutral on the suggestion by now.

Ipso facto they mean the same thing.

Not all New to Scratch users are New Scratchers.
You see? It still means the same thing.

duckboycool

MathlyCat wrote:
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Ipso facto they mean the same thing.

Not all New to Scratch users are New Scratchers.
You see? It still means the same thing.

duckboycool wrote:
Either way, they have decided that they are neutral on the suggestion by now.

monstermash3

MathlyCat wrote:
duckboycool wrote:
MathlyCat wrote:
duckboycool wrote:
cul8er wrote:
Doesn't ‘New Scratcher’ still imply that the Scratcher is new?
Please read the OP. They explained how that may not be true.

Support. I always found it weird that it was different.
How does reading the OP automatically deny their opinion? I agree with them, New Scratcher still implies the same as New to Scratch.
But not all New Scratchers are actually New to Scratch. They may have just not shared their two projects or not done some other requirement for Scratcher.

Either way, they have decided that they are neutral on the suggestion by now.
Ipso facto they mean the same thing.

Not all New to Scratch users are New Scratchers.
You see? It still means the same thing.

It doesn't literally mean the same thing. Not all New Scratchers are actually new, and not all new users are New Scratchers, so New Scratchers and new users are not exactly the same thing.

Anyway, if the purpose of the New Scratcher status is just to prevent spam, then it seems like it shouldn't be used to identify someone as new.

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