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StudioPangoFan_2000
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RobotChickens wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

(#1605)

arandomperson500 wrote:

man can y'all help me I have light speed filter agent dos any body know a way to bypass it
No.
Even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.

My school blocked the terminals on Chromebooks, but so far hasn't blocked cmd.exe on the 11+ year old windows machines in the building (which can somehow run Chrome 124, not quite certain how. It does take an average of ten minutes to load, though)

Also, the admin password used to be the same one used to sign in on those windows computers- then the admin account was hacked and the IT department had to change their password. One does wonder why it was ever the same in the first place, or if they just never got around to changing it.

For some reason, on all school google accounts running Chrome, the inspect feature is blocked. This is ironic, considering there is a class about website design that has been running for the past 5 years- and that's the primary way to debug websites.
My district has also blocked Crosh (Chrome Treminal) along with all google searches with the word “Crosh”! It seems as if they've had an “incident” with one of the students and have even gone as far as blocking misspellings and the word with spaces! I haven't had any luck with powerwashing (even if it did work, that'd be theft) and I've read that some districts are alerted when a device is powerwashed. chrome://net-export is also blocked because it dumps the school's wifi creds…
My district has blocked anything with “adult” in the name. They also do the same with “games or game”. The one exeption is if teachers are known to use it for educational purposes or if it is appropriate for a school-aged audience.
Want to know even how far they went? They blocked CoolMathGames, and it is on classlink, which we use at the school.

Last edited by StudioPangoFan_2000 (Dec. 13, 2024 18:06:52)

8to16
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apparently my school net recently blocked cubeupload, so i can't see images when i'm at school.
Wolfieboy09
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RobotChickens wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

(#1605)

arandomperson500 wrote:

man can y'all help me I have light speed filter agent dos any body know a way to bypass it
No.
Even if I did, I wouldn't tell you.

My school blocked the terminals on Chromebooks, but so far hasn't blocked cmd.exe on the 11+ year old windows machines in the building (which can somehow run Chrome 124, not quite certain how. It does take an average of ten minutes to load, though)

Also, the admin password used to be the same one used to sign in on those windows computers- then the admin account was hacked and the IT department had to change their password. One does wonder why it was ever the same in the first place, or if they just never got around to changing it.

For some reason, on all school google accounts running Chrome, the inspect feature is blocked. This is ironic, considering there is a class about website design that has been running for the past 5 years- and that's the primary way to debug websites.
My district has also blocked Crosh (Chrome Treminal) along with all google searches with the word “Crosh”! It seems as if they've had an “incident” with one of the students and have even gone as far as blocking misspellings and the word with spaces! I haven't had any luck with powerwashing (even if it did work, that'd be theft) and I've read that some districts are alerted when a device is powerwashed. chrome://net-export is also blocked because it dumps the school's wifi creds…

Now I need to try the chrome://net-export to see what the school's wifi password is (insert this one emoji)

Students CAN connect to it, but you need to enter your username and school password. Chromebooks get a different way. Want to see what it is

Last edited by Wolfieboy09 (Dec. 14, 2024 17:47:57)

RobotChickens
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Wolfieboy09 wrote:

(#1763)

RobotChickens wrote:

My district has also blocked Crosh (Chrome Treminal) along with all google searches with the word “Crosh”! It seems as if they've had an “incident” with one of the students and have even gone as far as blocking misspellings and the word with spaces! I haven't had any luck with powerwashing (even if it did work, that'd be theft) and I've read that some districts are alerted when a device is powerwashed. chrome://net-export is also blocked because it dumps the school's wifi creds…

Now I need to try the chrome://net-export to see what the school's wifi password is (insert this one emoji)

Students CAN connect to it, but you need to enter your username and school password. Chromebooks get a different way. Want to see what it is
There may or may not be online tools that decrypt the dump file… My dumped wifi creds for the school chromebook-only wifi really came in handy recently! My district recently got rid of the guest wifi due to “excessive traffic” and “security concerns” related to the use of VPNs. Now only school devices have access to the internet. BUT I was able to add the chromebook wifi to my phone as well as every other network they have set up! The district IT admin used the same exact password for all the locked-down wifi networks across all the schools. Literally ones single password for all important networks across all K-12 schools in the district

On a side note, I have to use my phone's hotspot function to share the school's wifi with my personal Chromebook because technacally only school-issued devices are allowed here. I got my hands on my own personal chromebook that looks exactly the same as the other default school chromebooks (Dell 3100s). The only difference is that mine twice as fast because I paid for one with usable specs.

Last edited by RobotChickens (Jan. 4, 2025 03:13:33)

Mryellowdoggy
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I talked to the IT guy at my school recently. He's actually pretty good at his job and he doesn't lock things down like crazy.
Also, I might be able to work with him on some things like an internship so that would be cool.
zaid1442011
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Mryellowdoggy wrote:

(#1765)
I talked to the IT guy at my school recently. He's actually pretty good at his job and he doesn't lock things down like crazy.
The school management is instructing them to block stuff like crazy.
Mryellowdoggy
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zaid1442011 wrote:

Mryellowdoggy wrote:

(#1765)
I talked to the IT guy at my school recently. He's actually pretty good at his job and he doesn't lock things down like crazy.
The school management is instructing them to block stuff like crazy.
Yeah, I guess that's true. The actual IT department might not get much say about that.
minniesworld
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Our district has GoGuardian installed on our school computers to let teachers look at and do things on our screens. First week of school a few game-addicted students found out the “screen locking” could be bypassed by some trackpad motions, last month they discovered some website unblockers (very sketchy) and once they found a fun game they would turn off the Internet on the computer so the teachers couldn't watch them. Pretty much they just defeated goguardian

the school IT has not even found out

Last edited by minniesworld (Jan. 6, 2025 20:47:53)

minniesworld
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They also decided that our password would be our birthdate, and still let teachers put lists of birthdays with first and last names (used for usernames) on the walls. Their said that if you logged in to someone elses account they would suspend you. Problem was they could never figure out who logged in
BigNate469
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RobotChickens wrote:

I got my hands on my own personal chromebook that looks exactly the same as the other default school chromebooks (Dell 3100s). The only difference is that mine twice as fast because I paid for one with usable specs.
Nice.

I have a Dell 3100 2-in-1 (3100 + touchscreen), but when I got it back in 2020 for remote classes I didn't pay for usable specs.

So I have to get by on 32GB of total storage and a very slow processor. At least it has a GPU that can handle most simple 3D stuff on the web, and it has 4GB of RAM (not much, but it's not terrible for something that pretty much only ever runs a web browser or a Linux terminal).

It does have a MicroSD port though, so I've been considering using the 128GB MicroSD card I have to help with my current storage issues (I have <1GB of total storage left on this thing)
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 130.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
SuperSonicmario
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I received a new PC a few days ago; it's running Windows 11, as expected. It has a Core i5-14500, integrated graphics, a whopping thirty-two gigs of RAM and an NVMe SSD. It's so impossibly fast that the first time I used it, I felt like I'd stepped into a new dimension. I just hope the CPU isn't affected by the Raptor Lake degradation issues.
My first task on it involved typing the lyrics to a song into Word. This would've been dead-easy to accomplish if not for a pop-up from “HP Support Assistant” rearing its ugly head every five seconds. Thankfully, I haven't seen it ever since – I guess somebody else complained.
Moral of the story: if, for some inane reason, you decide to buy a PC instead of building one, reinstall Windows right away.

Last edited by SuperSonicmario (Jan. 15, 2025 07:08:31)

arandomperson500
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logabe
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In a week, I'm gonna be helping the new students set up their computers and connect to the school system. I feel morally obligated to tell them that if you use Firefox or Ungoogled Chromium, the school can't forcibly install extensions on your computer. Is there anything else you guys think I should teach them?
alwayspaytaxes
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logabe wrote:

In a week, I'm gonna be helping the new students set up their computers and connect to the school system. I feel morally obligated to tell them that if you use Firefox or Ungoogled Chromium, the school can't forcibly install extensions on your computer. Is there anything else you guys think I should teach them?
Tell them to install a popular tracking blocker which is either 2 or 3 words long, and one that's not a popular dessert item cause that one's a scam
The_Mad_Punter
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I have quite possibly the best school IT in the world.

They have blocked (on the Windows computers):
  • Any website that they don't like, one blocker on the WiFi and one on the computer (the one on the computer is for the kids who can't be trusted with the one on the wifi)
  • Specifically, most free hosting sites are blocked (PythonAnywhere's free hosting is the only exception as it's needed for a class)
  • Any .exe files (except for an exploit which they removed this year for the new PCs)
  • BIOS access (with a BIOS password even the admins don't have)
  • And much more!

Other restrictions
  • Aristotle K-12 for monitoring (figured out how to disable this in 7th grade)
  • Chrome browser with policies (no dino game, no extensions)
  • No .bat files
  • No admin access

My current solution is this:
  • Run Debian GNU/Linux off a USB stick (boot by holding shift and restarting the computer)
  • Route all internet traffic over Tor's SOCKS proxy to unblock the WiFi
  • Occasionally use the exploit to run .exes (i have an older PC)
  • Use Debian to change some BIOS aspects (only some work)

Other methods I don't use:
  • Reinstalling Windows on your PC allows you to get admin access, it's almost undetectable (never used)
  • Run websites off of .html files (for unblocked games) (occasionally used)
  • Phone WiFi (somehow this can unblock sites) (never used)
  • Tor on Windows for bypass (used to use this before I got Linux)

Any other questions about the school IT?
BigNate469
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The_Mad_Punter wrote:

  • Phone WiFi (somehow this can unblock sites) (never used)
It unblocks everything your school blocks because it doesn't connect to school Wi-Fi- it connects to the cell network directly.
Mryellowdoggy
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The_Mad_Punter wrote:

I have quite possibly the best school IT in the world.

They have blocked (on the Windows computers):
  • Any website that they don't like, one blocker on the WiFi and one on the computer (the one on the computer is for the kids who can't be trusted with the one on the wifi)
  • Specifically, most free hosting sites are blocked (PythonAnywhere's free hosting is the only exception as it's needed for a class)
  • Any .exe files (except for an exploit which they removed this year for the new PCs)
  • BIOS access (with a BIOS password even the admins don't have)
  • And much more!

Other restrictions
  • Aristotle K-12 for monitoring (figured out how to disable this in 7th grade)
  • Chrome browser with policies (no dino game, no extensions)
  • No .bat files
  • No admin access

My current solution is this:
  • Run Debian GNU/Linux off a USB stick (boot by holding shift and restarting the computer)
  • Route all internet traffic over Tor's SOCKS proxy to unblock the WiFi
  • Occasionally use the exploit to run .exes (i have an older PC)
  • Use Debian to change some BIOS aspects (only some work)

Other methods I don't use:
  • Reinstalling Windows on your PC allows you to get admin access, it's almost undetectable (never used)
  • Run websites off of .html files (for unblocked games) (occasionally used)
  • Phone WiFi (somehow this can unblock sites) (never used)
  • Tor on Windows for bypass (used to use this before I got Linux)

Any other questions about the school IT?
No exe files?! How are you supposed to run any apps?
SpyCoderX
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Mryellowdoggy wrote:

The_Mad_Punter wrote:

-snip-
No exe files?! How are you supposed to run any apps?
Maybe a whitelist?

Last edited by SpyCoderX (Jan. 24, 2025 04:34:32)

logabe
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If Python is installed, you could maybe run programs through that?
minniesworld
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logabe wrote:

If Python is installed, you could maybe run programs through that?
If I had python on my school laptop, i would just make and play games in class
But this is a good point

Last edited by minniesworld (Jan. 25, 2025 00:13:13)

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