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- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
I've just learned about Markdown, a markup language designed to be as simple and readable (I'm looking at you, HTML) as possible. It seems to be quite intuitive, is the markup language for StackExchange (I think) and supports quite a lot of features BBCode supports. I'll just specify a few conventions of Markdown:
would become text
would become text
would become
As Markdown doesn't have the nesting problem BBCode/HTML e.g (*ahem* <!DOCTYPE HTML><html><body><h1><u><i>AHHH TOO MUCH STUFF TO CLOSE</i></u><h1></body></html>) (*ahem* snipping quote-chains) (*ahem* people posting on forums via their phone) has, it would be arguably better if Scratch used Markdown instead of BBCode.
**text**
*text*
* text
- text
As Markdown doesn't have the nesting problem BBCode/HTML e.g (*ahem* <!DOCTYPE HTML><html><body><h1><u><i>AHHH TOO MUCH STUFF TO CLOSE</i></u><h1></body></html>) (*ahem* snipping quote-chains) (*ahem* people posting on forums via their phone) has, it would be arguably better if Scratch used Markdown instead of BBCode.
Last edited by iamunknown2 (June 14, 2015 10:17:07)
- CatsUnited
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
You don't put an = symbol on the DOCTYPE. (<!DOCTYPE HTML>)
Also, it could be made so you didn't have to close the tags, but that would have to probably be a new line or things like that. Markdown could be added, but it should be restricted because in that site, I saw something saying that you can put HTML code in there.
Also, it could be made so you didn't have to close the tags, but that would have to probably be a new line or things like that. Markdown could be added, but it should be restricted because in that site, I saw something saying that you can put HTML code in there.
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
You don't put an = symbol on the DOCTYPE. (<!DOCTYPE HTML>)Edited.
Also, it could be made so you didn't have to close the tags, but that would have to probably be a new line or things like that. Markdown could be added, but it should be restricted because in that site, I saw something saying that you can put HTML code in there.
I think Scratch could just use a slightly modified version of StackExchange's Markdown implementation
- ev3coolexit987654
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
Semi-support.
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Last edited by ev3coolexit987654 (June 14, 2015 12:51:46)
- DaSpudLord
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
No support, I think the current system works fine, and I would have problems remembering how many asterisks to use and where. I think this system works better because it is easier to remember key terms. Although I would like to see something that makes posting from your phone easier…
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
No support, I think the current system works fine, and I would have problems remembering how many asterisks to use and where. I think this system works better because it is easier to remember key terms. Although I would like to see something that makes posting from your phone easier…You can use _underscores_ for italics as well.
- TheMonsterOfTheDeep
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
I really don't like StackExchange's markup. For example, in order to post a block of code, you have to indent every single line of code. This is extremely tedious and annoying.
BBCode is in my opinion much more intuitive. [b] is much easier to remember as “bold” then **, and in general BBCode is unambiguous and clear while things similar to what you're suggesting are rather ambiguous and unclear.
No support.
BBCode is in my opinion much more intuitive. [b] is much easier to remember as “bold” then **, and in general BBCode is unambiguous and clear while things similar to what you're suggesting are rather ambiguous and unclear.
No support.
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
I really don't like StackExchange's markup. For example, in order to post a block of code, you have to indent every single line of code. This is extremely tedious and annoying.The only reason why you'll ever know about [b] is because of HTML. Plus, it would make editing forum posts much less annoying, as it's much more readable than BBCode. Sure, BBCode is easier to learn, but is
BBCode is in my opinion much more intuitive. [b] is much easier to remember as “bold” then **, and in general BBCode is unambiguous and clear while things similar to what you're suggesting are rather ambiguous and unclear.
No support.
[url=test]Text[/url]
[Text](test)
Also,
In order to post a block of code, you have to indent every single line of code. This is extremely tedious and annoying.Well, we could use GitHub-flavored Markdown (GHM), where you can do something like
```python
print("Hello world!")
```
I also think that it's faster to write in Markdown than to write in BBCode. Plus, do you really need
Center attribute?
For Scratch?
I think this is a matter of minimalism vs power.
Last edited by iamunknown2 (June 15, 2015 05:59:46)
- dude341
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
To me, that's confusing. No support. But, if you can choose to use Markdown or BBCode, I will switch to support.
And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
Last edited by dude341 (June 15, 2015 07:14:15)
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
To me, that's confusing. No support. But, if you can choose to use Markdown or BBCode, I will switch to support.LOL wait until you get to Python…
And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
To me, that's confusing. No support. But, if you can choose to use Markdown or BBCode, I will switch to support.Also, Markdown isn't really like an actual language, as it's very human-readable - it's more like a format that you write in. It was designed for people like bloggers, and was not made for web designers that exploit every little glitch in JS and CSS.
And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
Also, the above text would've looked like this in Markdown (GHM to be exact):
> **dude341 wrote:**
> To me, that's confusing. No support. But, if you can choose to use Markdown or BBCode, I will switch to support.
> And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
Also, Markdown isn't really like an actual language, as it's **very** human-readable - it's more like a *format* that you write in. It was designed for people like bloggers, and was ++not++ made for web designers that [exploit every little glitch in JS and CSS](http://browserhacks.com/).
BTW, I have no problem with just adding a Markdown option alongside BBCode.
Last edited by iamunknown2 (June 15, 2015 09:52:00)
- dude341
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
When I see <B> in markup languages, I think of Bold. When I see **text**, I think of some text that someones really needs to read and is not part of a markup language..To me, that's confusing. No support. But, if you can choose to use Markdown or BBCode, I will switch to support.Also, Markdown isn't really like an actual language, as it's very human-readable - it's more like a format that you write in. It was designed for people like bloggers, and was not made for web designers that exploit every little glitch in JS and CSS.
And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
Also, the above text would've looked like this in Markdown (GHM to be exact):> **dude341 wrote:**
> To me, that's confusing. No support. But, if you can choose to use Markdown or BBCode, I will switch to support.
> And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
Also, Markdown isn't really like an actual language, as it's **very** human-readable - it's more like a *format* that you write in. It was designed for people like bloggers, and was ++not++ made for web designers that [exploit every little glitch in JS and CSS](http://browserhacks.com/).
BTW, I have no problem with just adding a Markdown option alongside BBCode.
- dude341
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
That looks like confusing syntax, just the way I like it unless it's Markdown.To me, that's confusing. No support. But, if you can choose to use Markdown or BBCode, I will switch to support.LOL wait until you get to Python…
And if you want to know why it is confusing, I'm used to seeing all those brackets and symbols and stuff, no matter what markup/programming language it is.
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
When I see <B> in markup languages, I think of Bold. When I see **text**, I think of some text that someones really needs to read and is not part of a markup language…The point of Markdown is to try to blur the lines between markup and plaintext, which makes it easier for newbies who forget to close their tags frequently.
Plus, doesn't bold convey emphasis on a particular thing?
- Hamish752
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
I've just learned about Markdown, a markup language designed to be as simple and readable (I'm looking at you, HTML) as possible. It seems to be quite intuitive, is the markup language for StackExchange (I think) and supports quite a lot of features BBCode supports. I'll just specify a few conventions of Markdown:No support, don't see any point.would become text**text**would become text*text*would become* textand more conventions documented here on Wikipedia!
- text
As Markdown doesn't have the nesting problem BBCode/HTML e.g (*ahem* <!DOCTYPE HTML><html><body><h1><u><i>AHHH TOO MUCH STUFF TO CLOSE</i></u><h1></body></html>) (*ahem* snipping quote-chains) (*ahem* people posting on forums via their phone) has, it would be arguably better if Scratch used Markdown instead of BBCode.
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
No support, don't see any point.You don't need to quote the original topic of the post, you know…
For a start, it would be much easier for New Scratchers who don't know much HTML/BBCode(in terms of syntax) in their post, would be much faster (reaching the [] keys slow down my typing) for Scratchers on the forums, would probably make quote chains more manageable (as in easier to snip); is
[quote][quote]blah[quote]blah[/quote]blah[/quote]blah[/quote] blah blah blah
> > blah
> > > blah
> > blah
> blah
blah blah blah
And finally, it would definitely be much easier for people on their phone/tablet to edit/make their posts/topics/replies.
Last edited by iamunknown2 (June 29, 2015 11:05:28)
- Pot-of-Gold
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
No support as per above. Its more convienent to use:
text
- iamunknown2
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Markdown?
No support. I'm good with the current system.Yeah, but it would definitely help phone users on the forums…
Perhaps we should have an option for Markdown instead…