ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

Can anyone recommend alternatives to the ignore list - especially that they know work well on other sites? I've heard of “muting” users, temporarily, and that causing them to get an ever increasing score that may eventually block them. But I don't know how well that works….
If people like the way other sites do this, please mention them by name and include screenshots - we'd be interested in learning more.

On YouTube, when a comment is flagged for spam or have a low thumbs rating, they are hidden, and can be shown with a “Show” button.

If we do implement an Ignore User system, a person viewing a comment from a user on his/her Ignore List doesn't see the comment at first.

Username
Comment ignored. Show Comment

When “Show Comment” is clicked, this happens:

Username Report▼
Blah blah blah blah blah. Hide Comment ►Inappropriate ►Spam
Reply

This would resolve the issue with not seeing comments that could be potentially harmful.

jvvg wrote:

There are no perfect solutions to the problem of rude comments, but this one seems like a nice idea.

Another thing that might make it more effective is to check comments without punctuation, that way if “this project stinks!”, is blacklisted, it will also automatically blacklist “this project stinks!!”, “this project stinks.”, “this project stinks”, etc.

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

There are two things this topic suggests: 1) User Ignoring System. 2) Comment Blacklist
1) As discussed before in this topic:

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

Lightnin wrote:

Can anyone recommend alternatives to the ignore list - especially that they know work well on other sites? I've heard of “muting” users, temporarily, and that causing them to get an ever increasing score that may eventually block them. But I don't know how well that works….
If people like the way other sites do this, please mention them by name and include screenshots - we'd be interested in learning more.

On YouTube, when a comment is flagged for spam or have a low thumbs rating, they are hidden, and can be shown with a “Show” button.

If we do implement an Ignore User system, a person viewing a comment from a user on his/her Ignore List doesn't see the comment at first.

Username
Comment ignored. Show Comment

When “Show Comment” is clicked, this happens:

Username
Blah blah blah blah blah. Hide Comment
Reply

This would resolve the issue with not seeing comments that could be potentially harmful.

2) I'm also suggesting a new addition to the commenting system: a blacklist

This blacklist would contain several previously reported comments that were evaluated by moderators. So say a user posts “this game sucks” on a popular game. It gets reported, then once the moderator finds it mean/disrespectful/inappropriate, he/she will add it to the comment blacklist, which prevents future comments from being the same as it. This way, once a mean comment has been said, it cannot be said again in the exact words. Eventually, a large enough pool of bad comments will prevent most mean comments from being posted.
EDIT: As an additional feature of this, punctuation marks (. , ! ? ' “ ; : etc) will be ignored.

Yes, I do realize some users can bypass this idea by typing in extra characters in the word, but the rule of thumbs is ”one and done."

Failord wrote:

jvvg wrote:

There are no perfect solutions to the problem of rude comments, but this one seems like a nice idea.

Another thing that might make it more effective is to check comments without punctuation, that way if “this project stinks!”, is blacklisted, it will also automatically blacklist “this project stinks!!”, “this project stinks.”, “this project stinks”, etc.

1. Agreed.

2. What if punctuation changes the whole meaning? I can't think of an example right now, but this might introduce some strange false-positives.

dracae wrote:

Failord wrote:

jvvg wrote:

There are no perfect solutions to the problem of rude comments, but this one seems like a nice idea.

Another thing that might make it more effective is to check comments without punctuation, that way if “this project stinks!”, is blacklisted, it will also automatically blacklist “this project stinks!!”, “this project stinks.”, “this project stinks”, etc.

1. Agreed.

2. What if punctuation changes the whole meaning? I can't think of an example right now, but this might introduce some strange false-positives.

Bullying is something I hate. You agree?
Bullying is something. I hate you. Agree!

^ That right there.

(Not that I hate you! :O)

zorket wrote:

One idea: For the blacklist, it blocks the bad comments and similar things to those comments. That way, people don't use workarounds:

WARNING: This isn't me saying the below stuff, it's just for an example.
This game sucks!
this game sucks!
this game sucks
This game sucks
Tis game sucks
Thls game sucks
This sucks

NoxSpooth wrote:

zorket wrote:

One idea: For the blacklist, it blocks the bad comments and similar things to those comments. That way, people don't use workarounds:

WARNING: This isn't me saying the below stuff, it's just for an example.
This game sucks!
this game sucks!
this game sucks
This game sucks
Tis game sucks
Thls game sucks
This sucks

Someone could say:

“Wow, you broke your leg? This sucks… Hope you get better soon!”

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

This blacklist would contain several previously reported comments that were evaluated by moderators. So say a user posts “this game sucks” on a popular game. It gets reported, then once the moderator finds it mean/disrespectful/inappropriate, he/she will add it to the comment blacklist, which prevents future comments from being the same as it. This way, once a mean comment has been said, it cannot be said again in the exact words. Eventually, a large enough pool of bad comments will prevent most mean comments from being posted.

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

NoxSpooth wrote:

zorket wrote:

One idea: For the blacklist, it blocks the bad comments and similar things to those comments. That way, people don't use workarounds:

WARNING: This isn't me saying the below stuff, it's just for an example.
This game sucks!
this game sucks!
this game sucks
This game sucks
Tis game sucks
Thls game sucks
This sucks

Someone could say:

“Wow, you broke your leg? This sucks… Hope you get better soon!”

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

This blacklist would contain several previously reported comments that were evaluated by moderators. So say a user posts “this game sucks” on a popular game. It gets reported, then once the moderator finds it mean/disrespectful/inappropriate, he/she will add it to the comment blacklist, which prevents future comments from being the same as it. This way, once a mean comment has been said, it cannot be said again in the exact words. Eventually, a large enough pool of bad comments will prevent most mean comments from being posted.

NoxSpooth wrote:

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

NoxSpooth wrote:

zorket wrote:

One idea: For the blacklist, it blocks the bad comments and similar things to those comments. That way, people don't use workarounds:

WARNING: This isn't me saying the below stuff, it's just for an example.
This game sucks!
this game sucks!
this game sucks
This game sucks
Tis game sucks
Thls game sucks
This sucks

Someone could say:

“Wow, you broke your leg? This sucks… Hope you get better soon!”

ProdigyZeta7 wrote:

This blacklist would contain several previously reported comments that were evaluated by moderators. So say a user posts “this game sucks” on a popular game. It gets reported, then once the moderator finds it mean/disrespectful/inappropriate, he/she will add it to the comment blacklist, which prevents future comments from being the same as it. This way, once a mean comment has been said, it cannot be said again in the exact words. Eventually, a large enough pool of bad comments will prevent most mean comments from being posted.

I was talking about zorket's idea, not yours.

zorket wrote:

That is true. But the scratch team can still program ways to prevent bad stuff, blacklisting words that surely have a negative meaning, like name calling. Also, some people could figure out about the blacklist, and keep posting different types of spam, dodging the blacklist with ease, because there are an infinite number of ways to be rude on the internet.

zorket wrote:

That is true. But the scratch team can still program ways to prevent bad stuff, blacklisting words that surely have a negative meaning, like name calling. Also, some people could figure out about the blacklist, and keep posting different types of spam, dodging the blacklist with ease, because there are an infinite number of ways to be rude on the internet.