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ItchyCatIII
Scratcher
500+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

The New Scratcher Status, while being a very clever, successful way to prevent spam, also limits new users, which is still smart, however, may be problematic for somebody who is actually experienced with Scratch but for some reason has a new account.

This is why I propose that users be allowed to opt out of the New Scratcher status, which will remove the limitations for users who do not need these limitations.

However, one major problem is that some spammers will take advantage of the ability to opt out. This is why I propose that, for those who opt out, a status kind of between New Scratcher and Scratcher.

These half Scratchers will be permitted to use Cloud Data, have a signature, post images and clickable links, have a 90 second rule as opposed to the 120 second rule for New Scratchers, and they will have to wait 20 seconds, not 30, between comments. They will still not be allowed to edit their posts after the first reload, though.

These half Scratchers should be watched, and if they are caught abusing their features and spamming, their account will be banned.

Scratchers who do not have experience with Scratch are discouraged from opting out if this suggestion is approved.
PrincessPanda_test_
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

No support, that's like removing the New Scratch status.
VoltageGames
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

No support.
iTweak0r
Scratcher
100+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

No Support
dude341
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

I've noticed you are a New Scratcher, you just want “to be smart”
No support, it's for your own good.
Prinseskat
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

It defies the point of being a New Scratcher, though - everyone'll obviously opt out, simply to become closer to a Scratcher, so you might as well have cloud data and the other things you suggested for New Scratchers. Which won't work because at some point, a spambot'll come along and crash the servers with an overload of cloud data/spam the forums with gibberish/link to an inappropriate website. The restrictions are there for a reason. Therefore, I don't think I support.
cwrivera99
Scratcher
500+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

No support, because this feature will almost definitely be abused.
TheHockeyist
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

Negative support. This feature will definitely be abused. “Half account” requests should be approved by the ST somehow, and that would just add to their job.
rdococ
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

TheHockeyist wrote:

Negative support. This feature will definitely be abused. “Half account” requests should be approved by the ST somehow, and that would just add to their job.
What on earth are half accounts? Also, the verification could be automated.
ItchyCatIII
Scratcher
500+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

dude341 wrote:

I've noticed you are a New Scratcher, you just want “to be smart”
No support, it's for your own good.

Yes, I am a New Scratcher, but my goal is not just to become a “Half Scratcher” using this. My goal is to allow those who are really experienced but for some reason have a new account to opt out.

I realize this will probably be abused now, though. Maybe there is another way?
Birdlegs
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

ItchyCatIII wrote:

dude341 wrote:

I've noticed you are a New Scratcher, you just want “to be smart”
No support, it's for your own good.

Yes, I am a New Scratcher, but my goal is not just to become a “Half Scratcher” using this. My goal is to allow those who are really experienced but for some reason have a new account to opt out.

I realize this will probably be abused now, though. Maybe there is another way?
Little real security on it, but: Input the password of a Scratcher account on yours to get full status.

However, that would cause some serious havoc. Encouraging password-stealing? Bad, bad!
ChocolatePi
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

No support, that's like removing the New Scratch status.
This ^^

Just wait for it to come.
joshuaho
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

Sorry - all users have to earn their full scratcher status. The reason this is in place is because there are spammers on the website. Whether they are human or not, there is a possibility that they might post links to sites that may be dangerous. The New Scratcher status prevents them from flooding the site with the messages quickly and gives the moderators some time to get to the posts before it becomes too many. Removing this status will only make it easier for spammers to spam more frequently. That's a risk that the Scratch Team isn't willing to take.
Paddle2See
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

Allow users to opt out of the "New Scratcher" Status

In addition to being a barrier to spammers, there's one other reason for the New Scratcher restrictions that hasn't really been touched on - and that's to make it more difficult for people to spawn new accounts. We actually want people to feel invested in their accounts so that they won't be inclined to make a bunch of other accounts - which is confusing to the community and adds additional work to the moderators.

So making it easier to make more accounts is not really something we want to encourage

Thanks for your suggestion though.

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