Remove "Next Backdrop/Costume" Block and make the "Switch Costume To [ ]" the same as its backdrop counterpart.

Letsgopitt

Okay, I understand that people use them. But there it is, under the dropdown:

switch costume to [previous costume v]

Removing this would also stop all the questions/confusion over why a previous backdrop/costume button doesn't exist.

EDIT: Okay, ignore the above.
I think that “Next Costume” block should be within the “Switch Costume To” dropdown, similar to the “Switch Backdrop To” dropdown. Therefore, we should get rid of the henceforth redundant “Next Costume” block. This would prevent confusion/suggesting for a “Previous Costume” block.

Please don't reply saying this would ruin animation/not reading the entire discussion. The function would still be there.

Last edited by Letsgopitt (March 11, 2015 21:27:21)

MrSherlockHolmes

Undecided, sorry. It makes it much easier for new scratchers.

Letsgopitt

Yes, however if new Scratchers didn't use the first block that caught their eye and used the dropdown, they would find both “previous” and “next” options.

MathlyCat

MrSherlockHolmes wrote:

Undecided, sorry. It makes it much easier for new scratchers.

Not true, when I was “new” I found it perfectly fine in the dropdown, it was as easy as finding the next costume block itself.

Support! I don't get why people wanted this so badly yet it was right in front of them!
Plus workaround for previous costume:

switch costume to ((costume #) - (1))

Last edited by MathlyCat (March 8, 2015 21:37:39)

Letsgopitt

MathlyCat wrote:
MrSherlockHolmes wrote:

Undecided, sorry. It makes it much easier for new scratchers.
Not true, when I was “new” I found it perfectly fine in the dropdown, it was as easy as finding the next costume block itself.

Support! I don't get why people wanted this so badly yet it was right in front of them!
Plus workaround for previous costume:
switch costume to ((costume #) - (1)) 

You don't even need that work around that people keep throwing around– use the dropdown, people!

ShinySkarmory227

No way! Are you kidding? I would not like to script my looping animations as:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [a v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [b v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [c v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [d v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [e v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [f v]
end

instead of the simple:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
next costume
end

matey1234

ShinySkarmory227 wrote:

No way! Are you kidding? I would not like to script my looping animations as:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [a v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [b v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [c v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [d v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [e v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [f v]
end

instead of the simple:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
next costume
end

Exactly. This would ruin animating.

No support.

ShinySkarmory227

And, what about all the projects that use it already?

MathlyCat

matey1234 wrote:
ShinySkarmory227 wrote:
No way! Are you kidding? I would not like to script my looping animations as:
forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [a v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [b v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [c v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [d v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [e v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [f v]
end
instead of the simple:
forever
    
wait (.14) secs
next costume
end
Exactly. This would ruin animating.

No support.

Dude! He's saying there is one in the dropdown you can still do this:
READ THE POST!!!

switch costume to [next costume v]//IT EXISTS LOOK FOR IT

ShinySkarmory227

MathlyCat wrote:
matey1234 wrote:
ShinySkarmory227 wrote:
No way! Are you kidding? I would not like to script my looping animations as:
forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [a v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [b v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [c v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [d v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [e v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [f v]
end
instead of the simple:
forever
    
wait (.14) secs
next costume
end
Exactly. This would ruin animating.

No support.
Dude! He's saying there is one in the dropdown you can still do this:
READ THE POST!!!
switch costume to [next costume v]//IT EXISTS LOOK FOR IT

No, no it doesn't. I just checked. I wouldn't say something like that if there was something else you could do and still be as simple.

NoxSpooth

ShinySkarmory227 wrote:

No way! Are you kidding? I would not like to script my looping animations as:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [a v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [b v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [c v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [d v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [e v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [f v]
end

instead of the simple:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
next costume
end

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to ((costume #) + (1))
end

Scratchifier

No support! This would break so many projects!

ShinySkarmory227

NoxSpooth wrote:

ShinySkarmory227 wrote:

No way! Are you kidding? I would not like to script my looping animations as:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [a v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [b v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [c v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [d v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [e v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [f v]
end

instead of the simple:

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
next costume
end

forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to ((costume #) + (1))
end

Think of all the new scratchers though! That isn't obvious! The “next costume” block was one of the first things that helped me get started! I still use it a ton!

ravenheart18

I agree with Shiny. It also helped me learn to animate.

NoxSpooth

ShinySkarmory227 wrote:
NoxSpooth wrote:
ShinySkarmory227 wrote:
No way! Are you kidding? I would not like to script my looping animations as:
forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [a v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [b v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [c v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [d v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [e v]
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to [f v]
end
instead of the simple:
forever
    
wait (.14) secs
next costume
end
forever
    
wait (.14) secs
switch costume to ((costume #) + (1))
end
Think of all the new scratchers though! That isn't obvious! The “next costume” block was one of the first things that helped me get started! I still use it a ton!

I don't support the removal of that block, however I wanted to point out there's also an easy workaround for it.

ShinySkarmory227

MathlyCat wrote:
Dude! He's saying there is one in the dropdown you can still do this:
READ THE POST!!!
switch costume to [next costume v]//IT EXISTS LOOK FOR IT

Actually, it only is there for “next backdrop” and only on the one inside sprites.

Letsgopitt

Scratchifier wrote:
No support! This would break so many projects!

Why exactly is this? The function would still be there, just inside of a dropdown. It would not “break” those projects, because the function would still be available.

PrincessPanda_test_

No support
1. New scratchers can handle this
2. This would be helpful for optimizing the animation scripts

Letsgopitt

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:
No support
1. New scratchers can handle this
2. This would be helpful for optimizing the animation scripts

I guessing you meant that new Scratchers can't handle it but…
Seriously, if new scratchers used the dropdown the questions forum would have a lot less people asking how to do “Previous Costume” and there would be less confusion over that.
Also, can't animators do this:

when green flag clicked
forever
    
switch costume to [next costume v]
wait (x) secs
end

Doodle-cats

Letsgopitt wrote:
PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:
No support
1. New scratchers can handle this
2. This would be helpful for optimizing the animation scripts
I guessing you meant that new Scratchers can't handle it but…
Seriously, if new scratchers used the dropdown the questions forum would have a lot less people asking how to do “Previous Costume” and there would be less confusion over that.
Also, can't animators do this:
when green flag clicked
forever
    
switch costume to [next costume v]
wait (x) secs
end

actually, that's only for backdrops.

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