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BigNate469
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TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

How do you use a VPN? I've been struggling to get around the blocking of many websites, and I want to use my school Chromebook that is way more portable and easier to handle than a traditional PC.

Here's my local device info if you need it at all:
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

I want to use the Chrome VPN built inside it.
You can't for that exact reason.
If you want to use a VPN (of any kind- if Chrome's is blocked on a Chromebook you're not changing that), then this is greatly simplified if you can use browser extensions (although if you can we can't tell you how because the ST doesn't want them mentioned on the website…). Otherwise… there are ways, but they're slow, run slowly, aren't guaranteed to work, and may also be blocked.

This being said, you could probably boot a different OS if you know a few tricks, but if you don't own the Chromebook that's a bad idea.
RobotChickens
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BigNate469 wrote:

(#1661)

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

How do you use a VPN? I've been struggling to get around the blocking of many websites, and I want to use my school Chromebook that is way more portable and easier to handle than a traditional PC.

Here's my local device info if you need it at all:
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

I want to use the Chrome VPN built inside it.
You can't for that exact reason.
If you want to use a VPN (of any kind- if Chrome's is blocked on a Chromebook you're not changing that), then this is greatly simplified if you can use browser extensions (although if you can we can't tell you how because the ST doesn't want them mentioned on the website…). Otherwise… there are ways, but they're slow, run slowly, aren't guaranteed to work, and may also be blocked.

This being said, you could probably boot a different OS if you know a few tricks, but if you don't own the Chromebook that's a bad idea.
Not to mention how sketchy most of them are. If you ever see one with a flame icon, STEER CLEAR. There's a reason it's “free.” (Full on data theft and stuff) Besides, once you start using a VPN that's not blocked, it's only a matter of time till admins find and block it, so it's not even worth trying in most cases.
RobotChickens
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BigNate469 wrote:

(#1658)

Wolfieboy09 wrote:

My school can block websites with students home devices by not the DNS server. Websites that are not allowed, gets requested, won't return its IP.
Bypass: I just told my device to use Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS IP
Yeah, it's laughably easy to get around DNS sinkholes when they're implemented at a Wi-Fi network level.

You can:

Use a different DNS
Turn your computer into a DNS (be warned, this requires a lot of memory and may significantly slow down page loading)
Remotely use a computer on a network where there are fewer network restrictions
Yeah, it's pretty easy when external DNS requests aren't blocked! On my school's network, if you change the DNS server to anything else, all the requests fail and nothing loads.
PaperMarioFan2022
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TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

How do you use a VPN? I've been struggling to get around the blocking of many websites, and I want to use my school Chromebook that is way more portable and easier to handle than a traditional PC.

Here's my local device info if you need it at all:
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

I want to use the Chrome VPN built inside it.
You can't for that exact reason.
Makes sense. I was just wondering.
Wolfieboy09
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BigNate469 wrote:

Wolfieboy09 wrote:

My school can block websites with students home devices by not the DNS server. Websites that are not allowed, gets requested, won't return its IP.
Bypass: I just told my device to use Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS IP
Yeah, it's laughably easy to get around DNS sinkholes when they're implemented at a Wi-Fi network level.

You can:

Use a different DNS
Turn your computer into a DNS (be warned, this requires a lot of memory and may significantly slow down page loading)
Remotely use a computer on a network where there are fewer network restrictions


I just set my DNS to Cloudflare, and it bypasses all of the blocked websites by not returning the IP. My school uses a website where I just had to tell my device the DNS record, where I had to do echo <IP Address> <hostname> >> C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts with admin perms
infinitytec
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BigNate469 wrote:

ideapad-320 wrote:

my school got new pcs. I hope they are not more locked down.
They are intel 13th gen, so the cpus will destroy themselves.
Why did your school buy PCs actually worth using? Most schools only buy cheap web access (i.e. Chromebooks) because they're on a tight budget.
We just bought a bunch of machines with 13th-gen i5s in them IIRC. They are replacing machines that we had intended to last for five years, but we got closer to seven out of them. We are hoping these will last a similar duration.
2D4eter
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zaid1442011 wrote:

2D4eter wrote:

(#1646)
My schools has a server that stores everyone’s files more or less in a set of different mounted disks, one of them being collaboration, which anyone can access. Last year someone created a hidden folder called games and put at least 15 GB of HTML games (like how do you get that much??) and everyone was using it. Eventually the school deleted it but the school did not disable the cmd. You don’t even need admin to set a folder/file type to system and hidden, which will make it completely invisible even after enabling view hidden files, you need to type the actual name of the folder to open it. It’s like the school wants its students to game. Keep in mind that this is a selective HS.
The fact that they were able to get 15 GB of HTML is insane enough. Let alone put it on a school server and they didn't notice that 15 GB worth of free space were gone.
They had about 20 TB of storage. :skull:
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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My school banned the google dinosaur game and no it’s not an online remake. I mean the offline one that appears on the no internet page. Like it literally shows the dinosaur about to be murdered I’m not joking
breakfast_for_dinner
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oh here's a funny story

so i had forgotten my school laptop at home, so my middle school was able to give me a loaner. when i was in first period, i clicked a link that went to pink sunset camera app and was amazed when it wasn't blocked. i was incredibly confused, because when my tablemates tried it, it was blocked on their computers. i was able to get to x, facebook, turbowarp, you name it.

after ten minutes of pure confuzzlement, i realized they had entirely forgotten to put the web filters on the loaner laptops.

i never told the school
redspacecat
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breakfast_for_dinner wrote:

oh here's a funny story

so i had forgotten my school laptop at home, so my middle school was able to give me a loaner. when i was in first period, i clicked a link that went to pink sunset camera app and was amazed when it wasn't blocked. i was incredibly confused, because when my tablemates tried it, it was blocked on their computers. i was able to get to x, facebook, turbowarp, you name it.

after ten minutes of pure confuzzlement, i realized they had entirely forgotten to put the web filters on the loaner laptops.

i never told the school
lol
RobotChickens
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2D4eter wrote:

(#1667)

zaid1442011 wrote:

2D4eter wrote:

(#1646)
My schools has a server that stores everyone’s files more or less in a set of different mounted disks, one of them being collaboration, which anyone can access. Last year someone created a hidden folder called games and put at least 15 GB of HTML games (like how do you get that much??) and everyone was using it. Eventually the school deleted it but the school did not disable the cmd. You don’t even need admin to set a folder/file type to system and hidden, which will make it completely invisible even after enabling view hidden files, you need to type the actual name of the folder to open it. It’s like the school wants its students to game. Keep in mind that this is a selective HS.
The fact that they were able to get 15 GB of HTML is insane enough. Let alone put it on a school server and they didn't notice that 15 GB worth of free space were gone.
They had about 20 TB of storage. :skull:
I may or may not have personally taken up around 6TB of school storage on our shared Google drive… I'll attach the screenshot if I find it. It took them a WHOLE year to find out, and admins came up to me saying "The largest teacher drive is 60GB. Have you been downloading a lot lately? Because It shows here that you have 6 Terabytes…" Her voice was kinda shaky too
AHypnoman
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admin blocked file:// from running js and broke all of my useful bookmarklets :/
zaid1442011
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RobotChickens wrote:

2D4eter wrote:

(#1667)

zaid1442011 wrote:

2D4eter wrote:

(#1646)
My schools has a server that stores everyone’s files more or less in a set of different mounted disks, one of them being collaboration, which anyone can access. Last year someone created a hidden folder called games and put at least 15 GB of HTML games (like how do you get that much??) and everyone was using it. Eventually the school deleted it but the school did not disable the cmd. You don’t even need admin to set a folder/file type to system and hidden, which will make it completely invisible even after enabling view hidden files, you need to type the actual name of the folder to open it. It’s like the school wants its students to game. Keep in mind that this is a selective HS.
The fact that they were able to get 15 GB of HTML is insane enough. Let alone put it on a school server and they didn't notice that 15 GB worth of free space were gone.
They had about 20 TB of storage. :skull:
I may or may not have personally taken up around 6TB of school storage on our shared Google drive… I'll attach the screenshot if I find it. It took them a WHOLE year to find out, and admins came up to me saying "The largest teacher drive is 60GB. Have you been downloading a lot lately? Because It shows here that you have 6 Terabytes…" Her voice was kinda shaky too
What where you uploading?
RobotChickens
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zaid1442011 wrote:

(#1673)

RobotChickens wrote:

2D4eter wrote:

(#1667)

zaid1442011 wrote:

2D4eter wrote:

(#1646)
My schools has a server that stores everyone’s files more or less in a set of different mounted disks, one of them being collaboration, which anyone can access. Last year someone created a hidden folder called games and put at least 15 GB of HTML games (like how do you get that much??) and everyone was using it. Eventually the school deleted it but the school did not disable the cmd. You don’t even need admin to set a folder/file type to system and hidden, which will make it completely invisible even after enabling view hidden files, you need to type the actual name of the folder to open it. It’s like the school wants its students to game. Keep in mind that this is a selective HS.
The fact that they were able to get 15 GB of HTML is insane enough. Let alone put it on a school server and they didn't notice that 15 GB worth of free space were gone.
They had about 20 TB of storage. :skull:
I may or may not have personally taken up around 6TB of school storage on our shared Google drive… I'll attach the screenshot if I find it. It took them a WHOLE year to find out, and admins came up to me saying "The largest teacher drive is 60GB. Have you been downloading a lot lately? Because It shows here that you have 6 Terabytes…" Her voice was kinda shaky too
What where you uploading?
I technically only uploaded one thing. BUT it was a 50GB .bin test file that I copied a TON of times. It was a 1TB folder with 20 .bin files that I duplicated a bunch. Google only allows 1TB a day, so it took about a week before I gave up XD
Wolfieboy09
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Wolfieboy09 wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

Wolfieboy09 wrote:

My school can block websites with students home devices by not the DNS server. Websites that are not allowed, gets requested, won't return its IP.
Bypass: I just told my device to use Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS IP
Yeah, it's laughably easy to get around DNS sinkholes when they're implemented at a Wi-Fi network level.

You can:

Use a different DNS
Turn your computer into a DNS (be warned, this requires a lot of memory and may significantly slow down page loading)
Remotely use a computer on a network where there are fewer network restrictions


I just set my DNS to Cloudflare, and it bypasses all of the blocked websites by not returning the IP. My school uses a website where I just had to tell my device the DNS record, where I had to do echo <IP Address> <hostname> >> C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts with admin perms

So this stopped working, so earlier this week, I installed Cloudflare WARP, and having it on magically works
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Wolfieboy09 wrote:

My school can block websites with students home devices by not the DNS server. Websites that are not allowed, gets requested, won't return its IP.
Bypass: I just told my device to use Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS IP
so basically student devices that aren’t used for school can get certain websites blocked on their home devices? that should be illegal. honestly.
RobotChickens
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Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

(#1676)

Wolfieboy09 wrote:

My school can block websites with students home devices by not the DNS server. Websites that are not allowed, gets requested, won't return its IP.
Bypass: I just told my device to use Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS IP
so basically student devices that aren’t used for school can get certain websites blocked on their home devices? that should be illegal. honestly.
The funny thing is, all of this is usually in a form they make you sign when you decide to participate in your school's BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) program. It's pretty helpful to read the fine print
PaperMarioFan2022
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breakfast_for_dinner wrote:

oh here's a funny story

so i had forgotten my school laptop at home, so my middle school was able to give me a loaner. when i was in first period, i clicked a link that went to pink sunset camera app and was amazed when it wasn't blocked. i was incredibly confused, because when my tablemates tried it, it was blocked on their computers. i was able to get to x, facebook, turbowarp, you name it.

after ten minutes of pure confuzzlement, i realized they had entirely forgotten to put the web filters on the loaner laptops.

i never told the school
wow lol
redspacecat
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AHypnoman wrote:

admin blocked file:// from running js and broke all of my useful bookmarklets :/
I hope my school doesn't so that… They already blocked bookmarklets, but if they blocked my collection of local games as html files, I'd be sad.
BigNate469
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My school seems to be continually trying to block things like browser extensions and unauthorized downloads, on Chromebooks in particular.

To get around this I've just started using Raspberry Pi Connect to control my Pi 5 remotely and bypass all that. Since it's running on my home's Wi-Fi network as well, they can't even force pages they don't want us getting at to return 0.0.0.0 (and its IPv6 equivalent). The best part about this is that I can know the exact IP address of the Pi, so even if they start blocking Raspberry Pi Connect, I can still send and receive arbitrary data to and from the Pi, and therefore do clever things that would allow me to re-create something similar to Raspberry Pi Connect.

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