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The_Blue_J
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Seems that fame hungry scratchers have found a suitable excuse to gain followers, by sending this message everywhere…

Would you consider following me, I am doing an experiment to see how many followers I can gain in this way

The bolded part is their invisibility cloak, making gullible scratchers to follow without getting into trouble by responsible scratchers, and therefore the ST.

So I suggest that the entire phrase (or at least the bolded part), should be censored by the filter for advertising.

FARFR (Frequently Answered Reasons For Rejection)
1. It's quite harmless, so I don't see why it should be censored…
So is chainmail, it's quite harmless and you can ignore it, but due to it's spammy nature, the filter blacklists a few popular types of chainmail, same thing here, except it is just like advertising in disguise of an “experiment”…

2. I don't think I've seen much evidence of this happening

Zydrolic wrote:

ASCII art has been counted as spam and has many of them on the filter. Thus, filtering this is fair play.

Last edited by The_Blue_J (Dec. 4, 2023 18:43:23)

Gamer_Logan819
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Support for reasons in op.

Btw guys Would you consider following me, I am doing an experiment to see how many followers I can gain in this way
TheEpikGamer211
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Support for reasons in op.
Dyanoa
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Support for reasons in op
ScratchCat1038
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It would probably be best to have the blacklisted phrase be as short as possible, so it catches as much as possible. Perhaps it could be “how many followers I can gain” or “experiment to see how many followers”.
The_Blue_J
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ScratchCat1038 wrote:

It would probably be best to have the blacklisted phrase be as short as possible, so it catches as much as possible. Perhaps it could be “how many followers I can gain” or “experiment to see how many followers”.
I think yes… The phrase to be blacklisted is very flexible and can be changed as and when needed..
PaperMarioReturns
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Support. I've seen these before, and I don't think that they are very fair to the people who are trying to gain follows.
Elijah999999
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Isn't this report-worthy though? And it's not offensive, so users who reported it aren't exposed to harmful language.
Zydrolic
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Elijah999999 wrote:

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Isn't this report-worthy though?
It is spam after all - So it probably should be.
KingRat_1
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you could just, choose not to follow them though
Scratchedbyyou
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No support, this might not actually be the reason people are following popular scratchers, you need some proof.
undeterminstic
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what if someone is doing an experiment and at the end they ask everybody to unfollow
qwerty_wasd_gone
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undeterminstic wrote:

what if someone is doing an experiment and at the end they ask everybody to unfollow
True, there could be real experiments that people would want to undo after it's over.

Scratchedbyyou wrote:

No support, this might not actually be the reason people are following popular scratchers, you need some proof.
Also true, op provides no proof.

Last edited by qwerty_wasd_gone (Dec. 1, 2023 18:45:06)

The_Blue_J
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KingRat_1 wrote:

you could just, choose not to follow them though
Not all scratchers know who is worthy of a follow or even what the follow button is used for, due to it's simple nature…
The Scratch Age Demographic is 8-16, and scratchers who are still exploring the world of Scratch may actually fall for these “experiments”

Last edited by The_Blue_J (Dec. 1, 2023 18:48:44)

The_Blue_J
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undeterminstic wrote:

what if someone is doing an experiment and at the end they ask everybody to unfollow
Why would someone want to experiment with follows? They are just a click away and need to be obtained through hard work, not just “experiments”

Last edited by The_Blue_J (Dec. 1, 2023 18:59:09)

undeterminstic
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The_Blue_J wrote:

undeterminstic wrote:

what if someone is doing an experiment and at the end they ask everybody to unfollow
Why would someone want to experiment with follows? They are just a click away and need to be obtained through hard work, not just “experiments”
to see what happens and tell everyone to unfollow in the end
gdfsgdfsgdfg
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the problem is it can easily be bypassed
like a different phrase, replacement words, even a project
or a image, etc.
The_Blue_J
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undeterminstic wrote:

The_Blue_J wrote:

undeterminstic wrote:

what if someone is doing an experiment and at the end they ask everybody to unfollow
Why would someone want to experiment with follows? They are just a click away and need to be obtained through hard work, not just “experiments”
to see what happens and tell everyone to unfollow in the end
Greed is a very powerful corruptor, once it becomes a habit, it's very difficult to free yourself from it's clutches.
With undeserved fame, greed always follows…

With follows being the representation of fame, this experiment turns into a source fame, this greed prevents scratchers from unfollowing once the supposed “experiment” is over.

When you hinder this experiment's progress, you also hinder greed from corrupting scratchers and attracting others into it's powerful clutches, meaning more creativity, and less fame hunger, one scratcher at a time…

Last edited by The_Blue_J (Dec. 1, 2023 18:58:52)

The_Blue_J
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Scratchedbyyou wrote:

No support, this might not actually be the reason people are following popular scratchers, you need some proof.
TimMcCool's profile has an example comment, showing it's wide outreach, kindly take a mockup of it and send it in a post before it gets buried
This is kinda like F4F, famous scratchers are repelled from it due to it's tainted reputation, however, unpopular scratchers aren't.

Last edited by The_Blue_J (Dec. 1, 2023 19:11:24)

yadayadayadagoodbye
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I don't see why this should be banned. While scratch doesn't encourage attempts at gaining fame, its not something thats not allowed. If F4F and FOR are allowed, why shouldn't this? (Of course, if people really use it to trick others with clear lack of intentions to conduct their expirement, it'd be valid to just report it as a scam)

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