Rethink Blocking Scratch as an Image Host

glitcX

When I'm at school, NO IMAGES will show up (except for previously hosted ones), most scratchers use SCHOOL DEVICES. Whenever one edits their post, they won't be able to keep their image. Unless you add another free image host trusted by schools or educational sites, then using scratch images should STILL be allowed.

Please not that this isn't completely rejected, as it hasn't been rejected since a new update.

Here are all faulty's with current system:

THESE IMAGES ARE STILL ABLE TO BE UPLOADED!! AND USED IN SIGNATURES, PEOPLE CAN SPAM BY JUST MAKING A BUNCH STILL, THE NEW METHOD SOLVES NOTHING!
Cubeupload goes down always.
Those other image hosts are PAID, the one that isn't (cubeupload) goes down a lot and is unstable…
Scratch literally holds animations with tons of frames, like i've seen MANY with 1000+ and they are really big vectors.

Last edited by glitcX (Nov. 4, 2024 00:18:43)

54387a

Support because the ability to show project thumbnails on the forums should still be possible, but because the forums now use the same filter as the comments, thumbnail links are blocked. However, the ability was never intended to be removed. By the way, you can still use assets by doing https://mv-ezproxy-com.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/scratchr2/static/.%2E/.%2E/(insert image here).(insert extension here) .

Last edited by 54387a (Dec. 3, 2023 18:02:28)

k7e

Using Scratch is rejected, and the top of TOLORS states that rethinking a rejected suggestion is still rejected unless you are providing a solution for the suggestion being rejected.

54387a

k7e wrote:
Using Scratch is rejected, and the top of TOLORS states that rethinking a rejected suggestion is still rejected unless you are providing a solution for the suggestion being rejected.

It never says that uncensoring project thumbnails are rejected. (I use them on my Show and Tell topics.)

DifferentDance8

Support. As someone who uses images a lot and can't use cubeupload, how has this not been implemented yet?

k7e

DifferentDance8 wrote:
Support. As someone who uses images a lot and can't use cubeupload, how has this not been implemented yet?

Because the new filter hasn't even been a thing for a day yet.

Scratch--TheCat

Support. I'd like to use Scratch as an image host in school without having to wait unitl I get home to upload the pictures I want to post on Cubeupload [Cubeupload is blocked on my school computer]

Last edited by Scratch--TheCat (Dec. 3, 2023 23:44:01)

medians

k7e wrote:
DifferentDance8 wrote:
Support. As someone who uses images a lot and can't use cubeupload, how has this not been implemented yet?
Because the new filter hasn't even been a thing for a day yet.

The “new” filter uses the previous filter and the mainsite filter, and the cause was the images being blocked beforehand on the mainsite.

7salad3salad

I'm thinking the main problem about using cdn2 and assets as image hosts might be that the Scratch Team may not have enough storage for people to keep doing that.
If that is the case, then adding a dedicated image host would just redirect the problem elsewhere instead of fixing the problem.

k7e

This still may be rejected.

Za-Chary wrote:
9.5 Allow files to be uploaded into forum posts
The Scratch Team would have to pay for storage of these files, and they only have a limited amount of resources to do so. Storage space would be better allocated toward Scratch projects, anyway. There is also the issue of someone uploading a file that can potentially cause harm to someone's computer. Searching through these files would require significantly more moderation work, and there are not enough moderators able to do the job at the moment.

DifferentDance8

k7e wrote:
This still may be rejected.
Za-Chary wrote:
9.5 Allow files to be uploaded into forum posts
The Scratch Team would have to pay for storage of these files, and they only have a limited amount of resources to do so. Storage space would be better allocated toward Scratch projects, anyway. There is also the issue of someone uploading a file that can potentially cause harm to someone's computer. Searching through these files would require significantly more moderation work, and there are not enough moderators able to do the job at the moment.

Images don't waste that much space. A 1080P PNG picture only takes up around 2MB of storage. A project, especially those as massive as Chirpy Reverie, takes up a lot more space.

54387a

k7e wrote:
This still may be rejected.
Za-Chary wrote:
9.5 Allow files to be uploaded into forum posts
The Scratch Team would have to pay for storage of these files, and they only have a limited amount of resources to do so. Storage space would be better allocated toward Scratch projects, anyway. There is also the issue of someone uploading a file that can potentially cause harm to someone's computer. Searching through these files would require significantly more moderation work, and there are not enough moderators able to do the job at the moment.

Bruh. ☠️
Anyways (and possibly jokes aside), project thumbnails and profile pictures are still not allowed to be linked and reallowing them wouldn't fall under that thing. Plus, it's talking about general files, not images.
Edit: Ninja'd

/offtopic

Last edited by 54387a (Dec. 1, 2023 04:15:55)

portalpower

7salad3salad wrote:
I'm thinking the main problem about using cdn2 and assets as image hosts might be that the Scratch Team may not have enough storage for people to keep doing that.
If that is the case, then adding a dedicated image host would just redirect the problem elsewhere instead of fixing the problem.

Each project on scratch uses one assets link for the thumbnail and I'm guessing the costumes. It can't take that much space.

mumu245

glitcX wrote:
(#1)
most scratchers use SCHOOL DEVICES

How do you know?

glitcX wrote:
(#1)
A user would have to wait 10 minutes between each image.

What if you want multiple images in a post?

54387a

mumu245 wrote:
glitcX wrote:
(#1)
most scratchers use SCHOOL DEVICES
How do you know?

That's because Scratch is an educational platform.

mumu245 wrote:
glitcX wrote:
(#1)
A user would have to wait 10 minutes between each image.
What if you want multiple images in a post?

Then they could use multiple images that aren't uploaded for the post.

Last edited by 54387a (Dec. 1, 2023 14:54:57)

glitcX

k7e wrote:
This still may be rejected.
Za-Chary wrote:
9.5 Allow files to be uploaded into forum posts
The Scratch Team would have to pay for storage of these files, and they only have a limited amount of resources to do so. Storage space would be better allocated toward Scratch projects, anyway. There is also the issue of someone uploading a file that can potentially cause harm to someone's computer. Searching through these files would require significantly more moderation work, and there are not enough moderators able to do the job at the moment.

Remember, something doesn't count as rejected if you add a solution.

kleemiya_the_furball

glitcX wrote:
When I'm at school, NO IMAGES will show up (except for previously hosted ones), most scratchers use SCHOOL DEVICES. Whenever one edits their post, they won't be able to keep their image. Those other image hosts are PAID, the one that isn't (cubeupload) goes down a lot and is unstable. Scratch literally holds animations with tons of frames, like i've seen one with 1000+. Unless you add another free image host trusted by schools or educational sites, then using scratch images should STILL be allowed.

A good idea would be a built in image uploader (for scratchers)

A user would have to wait 10 minutes between each image. And no more than 25 images in 24 hours

If an inappropriate image is uploaded, you can reported so ST takes it out of it's server

You mean scratch assets?

mumu245

54387a wrote:
That's because Scratch is an educational platform.
Education doesn't only happen at school.
54387a wrote:
Then they could use multiple images that aren't uploaded for the post.
What?

I propose a new, better limit:
* 4 images every 15 minutes
* 6 images per hour
* 16 images per day
* Unused images are deleted

Comix_2

Support, Scratch blocking itself as an image host seems really backwards to me

Zelnady

Yeah, I had to close my shop because of the image ban

Last edited by Zelnady (Dec. 3, 2023 08:12:28)

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