Remove Flash Detection

GIitchInTheMatrix

Crispydogs101 wrote:
No support. Some people actually do have flash
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 117.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
This could help with bugs that flash is causing..

Can you name a function on Scratch that uses Flash today?
-Glitch

Crispydogs101

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Crispydogs101 wrote:
No support. Some people actually do have flash
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 117.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
This could help with bugs that flash is causing..
Can you name a function on Scratch that uses Flash today?
-Glitch

What if it's a glitch with 2.0 scratch?
Also sometimes ruffle can make things work differently.

Last edited by Crispydogs101 (Oct. 4, 2023 01:02:26)

medians

Crispydogs101 wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Crispydogs101 wrote:
No support. Some people actually do have flash
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 117.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
This could help with bugs that flash is causing..
Can you name a function on Scratch that uses Flash today?
-Glitch
What if it's a glitch with 2.0 scratch?
Also sometimes ruffle can make things work differently.

1. Why are you even trying to use Ruffle on an AS3 program? It won’t even work well anyway, you’ll have to actually use Flash.
2. There’s no Scratch 2.0 online editor link on the main website, you have to access it somewhere else.

GIitchInTheMatrix

Crispydogs101 wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Crispydogs101 wrote:
No support. Some people actually do have flash
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 117.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
This could help with bugs that flash is causing..
Can you name a function on Scratch that uses Flash today?
-Glitch
What if it's a glitch with 2.0 scratch?
Also sometimes ruffle can make things work differently.

2.0 pages don’t use Flash. Only the editor did. Everything else is HTML

ajskateboarder

Crispydogs101 wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Crispydogs101 wrote:
No support. Some people actually do have flash
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 117.0.0.0, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
This could help with bugs that flash is causing..
Can you name a function on Scratch that uses Flash today?
-Glitch
What if it's a glitch with 2.0 scratch?
Also sometimes ruffle can make things work differently.

Regardless of any possible glitches, the last version of Flash that is bundled with Adobe AIR is Flash 32.0, so that is what most, if not everyone is using in the 2.0 editor. And I am pretty certain Flash 32.0 is what is reported when you use an emulator

RobotChickens

Support!
Would replacing it with “Javascript version detected: …” be helpful?

DifferentDance8

RobotChickens wrote:
Would replacing it with “Javascript version detected: …” be helpful?

I believe you update to the latest version, unlike Flash where you do it manually so that wouldn't really be useful.

Maximouse

RobotChickens wrote:
Would replacing it with “Javascript version detected: …” be helpful?

The JavaScript engine is a part of the browser, so the browser version is enough to know which JavaScript features are supported.

gdfsgdfsgdfg

Before you say no support just because of ways:
Ruffle isn’t a complete flash emulator (so almost any movie would be broken (some slightly, some partially and some completely broken))
Don’t talk about image quality

the image is at the time of posting
so now its 75% language and 69% API for AS3
Not everyone knows they exist
Chromebook users can’t have flash installed anyways (most of the are school)
Extensions exist but most aren’t actual emulators and some people can’t have
extensions (mobile users can’t have extensions, School users also can’t have extensions if the school says no)

Last edited by gdfsgdfsgdfg (March 4, 2024 15:35:36)

EngineerRunner

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:
extensions (mobile users can’t have extensions, School users also can’t have extensions)

you can on firefox android (at least on beta versions rn)

gdfsgdfsgdfg

EngineerRunner wrote:
you can on firefox android (at least on beta versions rn)

not everyone is going to use the beta
also there are mostly iOS users

Last edited by gdfsgdfsgdfg (Oct. 4, 2023 23:37:40)

medians

EngineerRunner wrote:
gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:
extensions (mobile users can’t have extensions, School users also can’t have extensions)
you can on firefox android (at least on beta versions rn)

What about iOS/iPadOS users though?
Also, Scratch doesn't use Flash anymore. They should instead share their Adobe Air version :-P

spookily

Boo!

medians wrote:
2. There’s no Scratch 2.0 online editor link on the main website, you have to access it somewhere else.

I would like to add that the other sites you would access it from are not made by the Scratch Team, so the Scratch Team couldn't fix the bugs!

medians

spookily wrote:
Boo!
medians wrote:
2. There’s no Scratch 2.0 online editor link on the main website, you have to access it somewhere else.
I would like to add that the other sites you would access it from are not made by the Scratch Team, so the Scratch Team couldn't fix the bugs!

That’s what I meant by somewhere else.

dissonances

Bump

PaperMarioFan2022

Bump because there was a dupe. No additional comment.

Zydrolic

gdfsgdfsgdfg

cuz dupe

Last edited by gdfsgdfsgdfg (March 4, 2024 15:33:38)

A-MARIO-PLAYER

Alternative: instead of getting rid of the Flash version, just show the EMCAScript revision the browser follows instead.

PaperMarioFan2024

Why do we need this removed? The feature actually works, seeing how it does for example.
When it's not detected:

My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

When it is detected:

My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, Flash version detected

This example only happens if the flash version is detected, vise versa, that is if you still use flash.

Other than that though, this would break the thing.

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