Rather have it than not need it, than need it and not have it

SciPiDilts wrote:

CodingfromtheScratch wrote:

3. Cloud variables are limited to a length of 128 characters at maximum.

Actually, 256. 128 is an old limit.

Edit: King of the page!

This was made when 128 was the limit then.

medians wrote:

SciPiDilts wrote:

CodingfromtheScratch wrote:

3. Cloud variables are limited to a length of 128 characters at maximum.

Actually, 256. 128 is an old limit.

Edit: King of the page!

This was made when 128 was the limit then.

I know, but people are talking about it being the limit right now. Just wanted to point that out since there's a chance that it might affect some people's opinions on this.

ok

no, just no. This will never be added, trust me. All this would do is break projects and the restrictions are needed, otherwise scratch may lag more. the reason new scratchers cant use them is bc they might use it in a wrong way(and might complicate scratch for them). Also, who even uses more than 128 charecters? 10 cloud vars is enough, and otherwise might cause lag. I also bet you dont even care about the education on it(bc who does). The number limit is to prevent ppl from chat projects(ageinst the CG)

unrealalex wrote:

no, just no. This will never be added, trust me. All this would do is break projects and the restrictions are needed, otherwise scratch may lag more. the reason new scratchers cant use them is bc they might use it in a wrong way(and might complicate scratch for them). Also, who even uses more than 128 charecters? 10 cloud vars is enough, and otherwise might cause lag. I also bet you dont even care about the education on it(bc who does). The number limit is to prevent ppl from chat projects(ageinst the CG)

Well, it’s now 256 instead of 128. And there were surprisingly a good number of projects that used more than 128 characters before the restriction was implemented, though it was needed.

Why would Scratch remove cloud variables? They have many uses. Removing them would break a lot of projects. If people are saying they just don’t have a use for them, there are also the people who do use them. There is no need to remove this.

I just don't understand how this would benefit you at all.

why did the cloud variables even get removed?

define why did the cloud variables get removed?

SOGS-E wrote:

(#70)
why did the cloud variables even get removed?

they werent.
you are simply a new scratcher, you cannot use cloud variables.

red_king_cyclops wrote:

Also, Cloud variables are not very good for education, since they do not teach databases very well.

Cloud variables were never meant to teach databases. They are simply a distributed version of variables

If you want to learn how databases work, we could either get tables, or just not have such a feature

ajskateboarder wrote:

(#72)

red_king_cyclops wrote:

Also, Cloud variables are not very good for education, since they do not teach databases very well.

Cloud variables were never meant to teach databases. They are simply a distributed version of variables

If you want to learn how databases work, we could either get tables, or just not have such a feature

aka the OP is probably not gonna see

Zydrolic wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

(#72)

red_king_cyclops wrote:

Also, Cloud variables are not very good for education, since they do not teach databases very well.

Cloud variables were never meant to teach databases. They are simply a distributed version of variables

If you want to learn how databases work, we could either get tables, or just not have such a feature

aka the OP is probably not gonna see

Yeah I know, I'm just mentioning it for other people

ajskateboarder wrote:

(#74)
Yeah I know, I'm just mentioning it for other people

thats fair
then i dissapear

Boo! (As always, I'm celebrating spooky month, not booing your suggestion!)

This has been rejected by the Scratch Team! There isn't any reason why it's rejected, though, so we can assume it's because cloud projects would break!

spookily wrote:

Boo! (As always, I'm celebrating spooky month, not booing your suggestion!)

This has been rejected by the Scratch Team! There isn't any reason why it's rejected, though, so we can assume it's because cloud projects would break!

Are they going to fix the cloud logs and projects from before the august maintenance at all though LOL
I'm still wondering how this topic still isn't closed honestly, I thought it would've been closed earlier.

Zydrolic wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

(#72)

red_king_cyclops wrote:

Also, Cloud variables are not very good for education, since they do not teach databases very well.

Cloud variables were never meant to teach databases. They are simply a distributed version of variables

If you want to learn how databases work, we could either get tables, or just not have such a feature

aka the OP is probably not gonna see

I still feel like that's in 5 years and that the posters are just some time travelling gods

SOGS-E wrote:

why did the cloud variables even get removed?

They aren't, if you can't access them, you might not be on an account with the Scratcher rank.

Why will we have to remove cloud variables, they are very useful.

what about the cloud extension u used to have?

ArjunPandit wrote:

what about the cloud extension u used to have?

Any extensions are not able to be implemented for the majority of Scratch, and since the discontinuation of ScratchX, there is nowhere for ordinary Scratchers to go and test them (at least, officially on Scratch). Browser extensions aren't allowed to be named either.

Regardless, why would this be useful? Cloud variables are extremely useful in a lot of projects- every multiplayer game on Scratch uses them, and there are some pretty clever ways to use them to have a lot more than just 10 values being transmitted at once.

Elijah999999 wrote:

red_king_cyclops wrote:

With all these restrictions put in place, what is the point of even having cloud variables any more?

Literally any project that uses them. What would happen to them? Think of this project. It had a crazy amount of hype, and many people are playing it as we speak.

I don't really support this suggestion, but this topic was made during Scratch 2.0 (so there was a file size restriction of 50MB, meaning you would have to modify that project to use it), and when the cloud limit was 128 characters instead of 256. That project was made in 2023, during 3.0 when the file size restriction was removed and the project.json limit was added.
However, it's unlikely stuff like high scores will reach 128 characters, let alone 256, so yea..