Ban Picrew links (please read the whole thing before saying support/semi support/no support)

ajskateboarder

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Picked uses Google Ads, IIRC. As such, using this logic, we should ban any site using google ads.
What would be an example of a site that uses Google Ads and is allowed to link?

https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Adsense

10987678

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Picked uses Google Ads, IIRC. As such, using this logic, we should ban any site using google ads.

i think the ads i'm talking about aren't Google Ads

PhiPhenomenon

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
hmm

YouTube has much more utility to the average person than Picrew and the ads are generally videos instead of images, which might be moderated differently.

ajskateboarder wrote:
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Adsense

Which of these can be linked on Scratch?

GIitchInTheMatrix

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
hmm
YouTube has much more utility to the average person than Picrew and the ads are generally videos instead of images, which might be moderated differently.[

Have you been on YouTube ever?

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
ajskateboarder wrote:
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Adsense
Which of these can be linked on Scratch?

I believe all of them, as it isn’t necessarily against the cg to link sites.

PhiPhenomenon

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
hmm
YouTube has much more utility to the average person than Picrew and the ads are generally videos instead of images, which might be moderated differently.
Have you been on YouTube ever?

Yes.

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
ajskateboarder wrote:
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Adsense
Which of these can be linked on Scratch?
I believe all of them, as it isn’t necessarily against the cg to link sites.

But it is against the CG to link sites that have inappropriate content, such as Twitter. One site that I immediately see on that list that would likely not be allowed to link is foxnews.com.

RAiNKiTT3N

10987678 wrote:
most of you might have inappropriate ads on picrew

i'm getting these ads, and i'm using a school chromebook so i can't install an adblocker to get rid of it

(can't post an image because i'm a new scratcher, if anyone is getting ads like that can you post it)

that's the fault of the site makers, overall, picrew is a sfw site as far as I know

RAiNKiTT3N

cs3868895 wrote:
10987678 wrote:
cs3868895 wrote:
._. I don't see anyone use picrew in this site before-
I have seen most people on picrew before
INSERT-USER_NAME wrote:
What is picrew?
a japanese site for making icons, there are some english ones there
? ? ? so It's an art website huh then.

It's not a art website, it's a website where you make icons
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 is 120 second limit over yet

cs3868895

Google cs first is controlled by google, I can see this totally being an issue :skull:

PhiPhenomenon

cs3868895 wrote:
Google cs first is controlled by google, I can see this totally being an issue :skull:

But CS First doesn't have any ads???

MikeFalls

crazy/

GIitchInTheMatrix

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
hmm
YouTube has much more utility to the average person than Picrew and the ads are generally videos instead of images, which might be moderated differently.
Have you been on YouTube ever?
Yes.

Than, you know what ads are there, right?

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
ajskateboarder wrote:
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Adsense
Which of these can be linked on Scratch?
I believe all of them, as it isn’t necessarily against the cg to link sites.
But it is against the CG to link sites that have inappropriate content, such as Twitter. One site that I immediately see on that list that would likely not be allowed to link is foxnews.com.

But not necessarily sites using google ads. Report them to google, or whoever owns the ad service. Using the logic of ads being included in the decision of how appropriate it should be, no site can be linked.

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
cs3868895 wrote:
Google cs first is controlled by google, I can see this totally being an issue :skull:
But CS First doesn't have any ads???

But, Google runs GOogle ads.

Last edited by GIitchInTheMatrix (April 10, 2023 18:15:17)

pandacorn_owl

I don't support as this could lead to plenty of artists not getting credit for their work since people who are using Picrew pfps (including me *cough* *cough*) would be unable to actually credit properly. As long as the specific picrew being linked is appropriate I don't really see a problem.

PhiPhenomenon

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Than, you know what ads are there, right?

Yes. I'm well aware there are inappropriate ads, but it's been a while since I've seen one and Youtube's utility outweighs the danger of possibly seeing a questionable ad.

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
But not necessarily sites using google ads. Report them to google, or whoever owns the ad service. Using the logic of ads being included in the decision of how appropriate it should be, no site can be linked.

Makes sense. Guess you take this one.

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
cs3868895 wrote:
Google cs first is controlled by google, I can see this totally being an issue :skull:
But CS First doesn't have any ads???
But, Google runs GOogle ads.

I don't think they run ads on the CS first website.

Last edited by PhiPhenomenon (April 11, 2023 12:30:36)

ajskateboarder

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
ajskateboarder wrote:
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Adsense
Which of these can be linked on Scratch?

That wasn't the point, just find the sites which are linkable

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
One site that I immediately see on that list that would likely not be allowed to link is foxnews.com.

Scratch respects both political wings

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
YouTube has much more utility to the average person than Picrew and the ads are generally videos instead of images, which might be moderated differently.

There are image ads on the side bar, and it doesn't really matter anyway. If the site is innapropriate for most cases, Scratch will ban it

GIitchInTheMatrix

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Than, you know what ads are there, right?
Yes. I'm well aware there are inappropriate ads, but it's been a while since I've seen one and Youtube's utility outweighs the danger of possibly seeing a questionable ad.

Than, the utility of a popular image host has utilities outweighing the dangers of seeing a questionable ad?

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
cs3868895 wrote:
Google cs first is controlled by google, I can see this totally being an issue :skull:
But CS First doesn't have any ads???
But, Google runs GOogle ads.
I don't think they run ads on the CS first website.

Nor did I say that. But, if they block sites just for using google ads, than why not restrict Google’s CS First program?

PhiPhenomenon

ajskateboarder wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
ajskateboarder wrote:
https://trends.builtwith.com/websitelist/Google-Adsense
Which of these can be linked on Scratch?
That wasn't the point, just find the sites which are linkable

I'm not going to search through a dump of thousands of sites to find one. If you think a site is linkable, then you should point it out (or even link it)!

ajskateboarder wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
One site that I immediately see on that list that would likely not be allowed to link is foxnews.com.
Scratch respects both political wings

Fox News is not banned because it is right-wing, but because it shows inappropriate images and topics for kids. Most people would agree that stories about murder would not be appropriate for young children. And we've already settled the matter about the ads there.

ajskateboarder wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
YouTube has much more utility to the average person than Picrew and the ads are generally videos instead of images, which might be moderated differently.
There are image ads on the side bar, and it doesn't really matter anyway. If the site is innapropriate for most cases, Scratch will ban it

See the post above that addresses this.

PhiPhenomenon

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Than, you know what ads are there, right?
Yes. I'm well aware there are inappropriate ads, but it's been a while since I've seen one and Youtube's utility outweighs the danger of possibly seeing a questionable ad.
Than, the utility of a popular image host has utilities outweighing the dangers of seeing a questionable ad?

I assume you're referencing TinyPic.

In that case, an alternative was easily found, Cubeupload. I'd say YouTube has a monopoly on the video industry as it's by far the largest site for its purpose. But sure, we could ban YouTube. I never link directly to it anyway.

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
cs3868895 wrote:
Google cs first is controlled by google, I can see this totally being an issue :skull:
But CS First doesn't have any ads???
But, Google runs GOogle ads.
I don't think they run ads on the CS first website.
Nor did I say that. But, if they block sites just for using google ads, than why not restrict Google’s CS First program?

I don't see why there's a reason to restrict it, CS First doesn't have ads.

GIitchInTheMatrix

PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
PhiPhenomenon wrote:
GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Than, you know what ads are there, right?
Yes. I'm well aware there are inappropriate ads, but it's been a while since I've seen one and Youtube's utility outweighs the danger of possibly seeing a questionable ad.
Than, the utility of a popular image host has utilities outweighing the dangers of seeing a questionable ad?
I assume you're referencing TinyPic.

In that case, an alternative was easily found, Cubeupload. I'd say YouTube has a monopoly on the video industry as it's by far the largest site for its purpose. But sure, we could ban YouTube. I never link directly to it anyway.

Vimeo exists. And does CubeUpload have a monopoly on image hosting? Microsoft Stream also exists, and may be better.
Besides, how often is CubeUpload down, and how many people have to make an account there?

UI-coder

If it contains inappropriate content, why would you say the site instead of contacting the scratch team?

pointless topic.

Last edited by UI-coder (April 11, 2023 13:29:20)

PhiPhenomenon

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:
Vimeo exists. And does CubeUpload have a monopoly on image hosting? Microsoft Stream also exists, and may be better.
Besides, how often is CubeUpload down, and how many people have to make an account there?

Yet YouTube is more widely known than Vimeo or Microsoft Stream, with more people using it than alternatives. It's likely that something on Youtube isn't on any video hosting alternative.

As for CubeUpload, I never said it had a monopoly on image hosting, I said that it was an easy alternative to TinyPic. Sorry if the wording was rough to understand. CubeUpload is up most of the time, with infrequent outages from time to time. Account creation isn't difficult or time consuming, but maybe the ST should have chose an easier alternative.

UI-coder wrote:
If it contains inappropriate content, why would you say the site instead of contacting the scratch team?

pointless topic.

Because some people want to link instead of ratting themselves out?

Last edited by PhiPhenomenon (April 11, 2023 13:36:07)

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