Adding countries flags to the library

inom5962dojo

cs3868895 wrote:
cookieclickerer33 wrote:
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inom5962dojo wrote:
For ordering into continents, what about transcontinental countries like Russia or Indonesia?
Russia can be in europe, while indonesia asia lol

Cyprus? Turkey? Panama?

Last edited by inom5962dojo (Feb. 21, 2023 19:01:14)

inom5962dojo

sonic__fan wrote:
I don't think I've posted here, but I will anyways:
No support, it's unclear (to my knowledge) which countries are actual countries,

That would have to be figured out, but for sure the UN members and observers, maybe just that? It covers most countries, and controversial ones can be added in like you said.

sonic__fan wrote:
and if you really need the flag for a country, import one from your hard drive.

At this point just remove all the sprites because you can “just use google images” or “download them from you hard drive” the point it to make it easier.

FlameEater9000

One thing…

POLITICAL BOI
also if this would be added then a Pakistan flag would be appreciated

cs3868895

Honestly these are all of my points why I lost hope in countries after the many responses from the pride hearts thing. This was only made to make the following topic separate, but should I even make this do this when I know the responses I'm going to get-

But pls don't suggest why we can't just download it just because. Some people can't even download. There's a reason why scratch has the library in the first place. And because of that reason, I'm going to add that to the op.

Last edited by cs3868895 (Feb. 21, 2023 22:09:54)

hhchhfgv

inom5962dojo wrote:
For ordering into continents, what about transcontinental countries like Russia or Indonesia?

Most Russians live in European Russia, as the Siberian area is a wasteland of snow. For Indonesia, call it part of Asia. For Panama, call it a part of Central America.

hhchhfgv

hhchhfgv wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
For ordering into continents, what about transcontinental countries like Russia or Indonesia?
Most Russians live in European Russia, as the Siberian area is a wasteland of snow. For Indonesia, call it part of Asia. For Panama, call it a part of Central America.

Also make Turkey part of the Middle East, and Cyprus in Asia.

cheddargirl

Temp closed for off-topic cleanup.

Reopened. Please keep on topic. Which the viability of suggestions is based on what the Scratch Team is and isn't capable of doing with the limited resources we have, there's no good reason to be dragging other suggestions into this.

Last edited by cheddargirl (Feb. 22, 2023 04:21:00)

cs3868895

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Last edited by cs3868895 (Feb. 22, 2023 04:25:05)

33emeries

(Thank you, cheddargirl!)

I think this presents a bit of a challenge. Not with keeping sprites updated or deciding what past countries count (none of them,) but with deciding what currently counts. What would be the stance on Palestine? Or Kosovo? Taiwan? There's not an answer to any of these that wouldn't make anyone angry. Not just like one or two people either, we'd be talking at least in the hundreds on Scratch. It's best not to open that can of worms.

A no-download workaround that comes to mind (aside drawing) is to ask another member for them to put the vector file in a project, which they can then put in the Backpack.

With sorrow, no support from me.

inom5962dojo

cs3868895 wrote:
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It irks me when people do this instead of just using strike through like this.. Not that big of deal, it’s just I see it a lot.

33emeries wrote:
(Thank you, cheddargirl!)

I think this presents a bit of a challenge. Not with keeping sprites updated or deciding what past countries count (none of them,) but with deciding what currently counts. What would be the stance on Palestine? Or Kosovo? Taiwan? There's not an answer to any of these that wouldn't make anyone angry. Not just like one or two people either, we'd be talking at least in the hundreds on Scratch. It's best not to open that can of worms.

A no-download workaround that comes to mind (aside drawing) is to ask another member for them to put the vector file in a project, which they can then put in the Backpack.

With sorrow, no support from me.

Well they could always go the route of doing all of those and being more inclusive, maybe just call them “places” no one can argue that they don’t exist.

Last edited by inom5962dojo (Feb. 22, 2023 15:18:21)

inom5962dojo

Granted then where to draw the line of “places” it would be unfeasible to make all stare flags of every country. Idk, maybe go back to my previous suggestion and stay neutral by just doing UN members +observers?

33emeries

inom5962dojo wrote:
Well they could always go the route of doing all of those and being more inclusive, maybe just call them “places” no one can argue that they don’t exist.

If it was me personally, I'd throw them all in in a heartbeat, but that is by all accounts a political viewpoint. There are millions out there that do argue that these places don't exist, that the territory belongs to their home country, and I don't doubt that at least a few of them use Scratch and would throw a fit about it. If the world were a nicer place, then of course this would be a yes, but with what limited resources the Scratch Team has, it's not worth the effort to play with a subject as touchy as this.

edit: forgot you had another reply…

inom5962dojo wrote:
Idk, maybe go back to my previous suggestion and stay neutral by just doing UN members +observers?

This would definitely be your best bet if an implementation were to happen, although you'd then exclude everyone I listed in my first reply. Which would cause the same outrage, I think.

Last edited by 33emeries (Feb. 22, 2023 16:30:24)

sonic__fan

why was my post deleted

No support. To my knowledge, it's kinda shaky on what country is a real country.
Also, instead of wasting the Scratch Team's time by adding sprites to the costume library, download and import them yourself. Flags of countries are not hard to find.

inom5962dojo

33emeries wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
Well they could always go the route of doing all of those and being more inclusive, maybe just call them “places” no one can argue that they don’t exist.
If it was me personally, I'd throw them all in in a heartbeat, but that is by all accounts a political viewpoint.

Western Sahara? Greenland? England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland?
Just curious don’t mean to cause any political arguments.

Last edited by inom5962dojo (Feb. 22, 2023 16:51:45)

inom5962dojo

33emeries wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
Well they could always go the route of doing all of those and being more inclusive, maybe just call them “places” no one can argue that they don’t exist.
If the world were a nicer place, then of course this would be a yes, but with what limited resources the Scratch Team has, it's not worth the effort to play with a subject as touchy as this.

Yeah, I hate to agree with you not trying to be offensive just saying that your point is unfortunately true but you’re probably right

Are you a geography nerd like me?

Last edited by inom5962dojo (Feb. 22, 2023 16:52:11)

hhchhfgv

inom5962dojo wrote:
33emeries wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
Well they could always go the route of doing all of those and being more inclusive, maybe just call them “places” no one can argue that they don’t exist.
If it was me personally, I'd throw them all in a heartbeat, but that is by all accounts a political viewpoint.

Western Sahara? Greenland? England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland?
Just curious don’t mean to cause any political arguments.

Just include the countries that are on the “Sign Up” screen.

inom5962dojo

hhchhfgv wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
33emeries wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
Well they could always go the route of doing all of those and being more inclusive, maybe just call them “places” no one can argue that they don’t exist.
If it was me personally, I'd throw them all in a heartbeat, but that is by all accounts a political viewpoint.

Western Sahara? Greenland? England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland?
Just curious don’t mean to cause any political arguments.
Just include the countries that are on the “Sign Up” screen.

Yeah but a lot of those aren’t countries. (In fact most of them)

cs3868895

inom5962dojo wrote:
hhchhfgv wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
33emeries wrote:
inom5962dojo wrote:
Well they could always go the route of doing all of those and being more inclusive, maybe just call them “places” no one can argue that they don’t exist.
If it was me personally, I'd throw them all in a heartbeat, but that is by all accounts a political viewpoint.

Western Sahara? Greenland? England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland?
Just curious don’t mean to cause any political arguments.
Just include the countries that are on the “Sign Up” screen.

Yeah but a lot of those aren’t countries. (In fact most of them)

Definitely not the joke countries, but the ones that are actually countries, Antarctica included.

YtArie5

33emeries wrote:
(Thank you, cheddargirl!)

I think this presents a bit of a challenge. Not with keeping sprites updated or deciding what past countries count (none of them,) but with deciding what currently counts. What would be the stance on Palestine? Or Kosovo? Taiwan? There's not an answer to any of these that wouldn't make anyone angry. Not just like one or two people either, we'd be talking at least in the hundreds on Scratch. It's best not to open that can of worms.

A no-download workaround that comes to mind (aside drawing) is to ask another member for them to put the vector file in a project, which they can then put in the Backpack.

With sorrow, no support from me.

there's no way to do anything without making someone angry.

cs3868895

YtArie5 wrote:
33emeries wrote:
(Thank you, cheddargirl!)

I think this presents a bit of a challenge. Not with keeping sprites updated or deciding what past countries count (none of them,) but with deciding what currently counts. What would be the stance on Palestine? Or Kosovo? Taiwan? There's not an answer to any of these that wouldn't make anyone angry. Not just like one or two people either, we'd be talking at least in the hundreds on Scratch. It's best not to open that can of worms.

A no-download workaround that comes to mind (aside drawing) is to ask another member for them to put the vector file in a project, which they can then put in the Backpack.

With sorrow, no support from me.
there's no way to do anything without making someone angry.

applies to every topic but with this current situation people can make it but what you totally don't know about it and just use the scratch library?

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