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Yellowsheep43
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Prevent an email attached to an account from creating new accounts.
This is to reduce and/or prevent ban evasion.

This is usually what happens:
  • Scratcher gets banned
  • Scratcher makes a new account to evade ban
  • Scratcher complains about ban
  • Scratcher may get banned again
This suggestion would prevent that.
Vetzlan
Scratcher
100+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

No support, the report button is incredibly versatile and a ban or two can discourage a user from doing it again
SavetheAtlantic
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

If the account was banned because of an inappropriate username, you're allowed to create a new one.
ajskateboarder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

No support. People evading bans can always create another email. This would hardly reduce ban evasion
D-ScratchNinja
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

This might be more effective if account creations on the same IP address were also blocked.
Yellowsheep43
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

ajskateboarder wrote:

No support. People evading bans can always create another email. This would hardly reduce ban evasion
Most children don't know how to create new emails. The only way they would be able to evade bans with this is by already having an alt before said ban.
Prince_Wolf1
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

No support. People evading bans can always create another email. This would hardly reduce ban evasion
Most children don't know how to create new emails. The only way they would be able to evade bans with this is by already having an alt before said ban.
I use my email but also have a school gmail and a semi-personal gmail

Kids could do that

And I’m sure kids would find out or use someone else gmail/email they posted somewhere
ajskateboarder
Scratcher
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

No support. People evading bans can always create another email. This would hardly reduce ban evasion
Most children don't know how to create new emails. The only way they would be able to evade bans with this is by already having an alt before said ban.

That would probably apply to kids younger than 9. Not such a foolproof system. Also Temp Mail

D-ScratchNinja wrote:

This might be more effective if account creations on the same IP address were also blocked.

What if an entire school network gets IP banned because of that one guy? Plus, if you know a bit about networks, a kid could just reset their router and bam, new public IP.
Yellowsheep43
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

I doubt kids would know how to change their IP or make a new email. All of you are assuming worst case. This is designed to reduce, and any extra action can be dealt with by the mods
SavetheAtlantic
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

any extra action can be dealt with by the mods
Suggestion immediately became irrelevant. I think the mods are fine managing it the way it is right now; if they weren't something like this would already exist.
Sliverus
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

My brother and I are under the same email. If one of us gets banned, that won’t be good. My brother has forgotten his password two or three times, and has to keep making new accounts. If he forgets again, then he won’t be able to use Scratch. That would be highly unfair.
48kxzh0tzz_____
Scratcher
100+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

(#6)

Most children don't know how to create new emails. The only way they would be able to evade bans with this is by already having an alt before said ban.
as a child, i make a new email every month like this isn't going to change anything lol
48kxzh0tzz_____
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

D-ScratchNinja wrote:

(#5)
This might be more effective if account creations on the same IP address were also blocked.
ge anything lol

ok what if this happens becaude this already happens. if you have a sibling or classmate, and they do something stupid, and they share the same IP/email address as you, then what happens? You get falsely banned, so who really is feeling the pain? Not just them, you too.
ajskateboarder
Scratcher
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

I doubt kids would know how to change their IP or make a new email. All of you are assuming worst case. This is designed to reduce, and any extra action can be dealt with by the mods

IMO You are assuming that kids are so stupid that they don't know how to create a new email. After online schooling, email should be common knowledge! All you literally have to do is search “create a new gmail account”. This wouldn't reduce ban evasion as much as you think.

Last edited by ajskateboarder (Nov. 14, 2022 12:41:39)

48kxzh0tzz_____
Scratcher
100+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Also literaly all you're saying is “kIds aRe idIOtS”.
-Valtren-
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1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

Also literaly all you're saying is “kIds aRe idIOtS”.
we are. some of us are slightly less idiotic than others.
48kxzh0tzz_____
Scratcher
100+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

-Valtren- wrote:

(#16)

we are. some of us are slightly less idiotic than others.

i will remember this and quote you on this.

i'll admit: you're right.

h o w e v e r

you should know that gen alpha and gen z literally masted the internet; you can't stop them since they know so much. i mean, gen z is pretty stupid (no offense) but they are really good in the tech field, same with gen alpha. most of scratch is these generations.

Last edited by 48kxzh0tzz_____ (Nov. 14, 2022 15:33:38)

Yellowsheep43
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Alright, can we please stop arguing about whether a child is capable of creating a new email account or not? We're getting too off-topic.

Yes, it is important to note that they might be able to. But this suggestion isn't really designed to prevent 100% of ban evasion, just reduce and/or discourage it.
48kxzh0tzz_____
Scratcher
100+ posts

Prevent Account Creation during a ban

Yellowsheep43 wrote:

(#18)
Alright, can we please stop arguing about whether a child is capable of creating a new email account or not? We're getting too off-topic.

Yes, it is important to note that they might be able to. But this suggestion isn't really designed to prevent 100% of ban evasion, just reduce and/or discourage it.


this is ontopic buddy, you're proposing something that is related to email accounts and IP addresses (using this info). we all know kids are capable of messing with it.

and this really won't make a difference at all since they can figure out.

Last edited by 48kxzh0tzz_____ (Nov. 14, 2022 15:39:44)

Yellowsheep43
Scratcher
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Prevent Account Creation during a ban

48kxzh0tzz_____ wrote:

and this really won't make a difference at all since they can figure out.
alright then how about we remove the chat filter since people can figure out a way to work around the filter to share private info. It won't really make a difference.

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