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vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

When a account is being created, the internet, browser, operating system and email address should be checked. If 5 accounts already exist with that email address, the user should recieve a notification telling them to use one of their other accounts instead of creating a new one. If the user has a good reason to create more than 5 accounts, then they can send the scratchteam through Contact Us. This will make sure one person cannot mass report a project with multiple accounts.

Last edited by vdiu (Aug. 9, 2022 16:14:32)

ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

Mass reporting barely does anything to the user affected by it, and it ends up doing more damage to the users who mass reported it. This is unnecessary as most mass reporting cases are solved fairly quickly.
musicROCKS013
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Mass reporting barely does anything to the user affected by it, and it ends up doing more damage to the users who mass reported it. This is unnecessary as most mass reporting cases are solved fairly quickly.
How does it affect the mass reporters?
ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

(#4)

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Mass reporting barely does anything to the user affected by it, and it ends up doing more damage to the users who mass reported it. This is unnecessary as most mass reporting cases are solved fairly quickly.
How does it affect the mass reporters?
The mass reporters most of the time end up with moderation action taken against their account.
vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#4)

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Mass reporting barely does anything to the user affected by it, and it ends up doing more damage to the users who mass reported it. This is unnecessary as most mass reporting cases are solved fairly quickly.
How does it affect the mass reporters?
The mass reporters most of the time end up with moderation action taken against their account.
Still, the reporters can just create new accounts. That's another point.
ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

(#8)

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#4)

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Mass reporting barely does anything to the user affected by it, and it ends up doing more damage to the users who mass reported it. This is unnecessary as most mass reporting cases are solved fairly quickly.
How does it affect the mass reporters?
The mass reporters most of the time end up with moderation action taken against their account.
Still, the reporters can just create new accounts. That's another point.
Read post #7
vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

Last edited by vdiu (Aug. 9, 2022 15:20:29)

ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

(#10)

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location ND Browser/Operating system would also work.
Still, my point stands this is unnessecary and would restrict normal Scratchers a lot. A lot of scratchers have multiple accounts for various purposes (one for games, art, animations etc). Adding this would just be restrictive. And I know you said that they can use Contact Us to request new accounts, but depending on what the reason is Contact Us can take weeks to months for a response. I imagine a lot of scratchers would be requesting more accounts making the wait times be way longer than normal.
-Zorra-
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location ND Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
And a lot of people may use alt accounts/move accounts, I definitely have over 5 accounts registered to this computer (most are inactive)

Last edited by -Zorra- (Aug. 9, 2022 15:20:58)

vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
How many accounts can you need? In a family of 4 kids, with 1 account for each person, that would work.
ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

(#13)

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
How many accounts can you need? In a family of 4 kids, with 1 account for each person, that would work.
Alt accounts, test accounts, what if they want to move accounts?
vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#10)

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location ND Browser/Operating system would also work.
Still, my point stands this is unnessecary and would restrict normal Scratchers a lot. A lot of scratchers have multiple accounts for various purposes (one for games, art, animations etc). Adding this would just be restrictive. And I know you said that they can use Contact Us to request new accounts, but depending on what the reason is Contact Us can take weeks to months for a response. I imagine a lot of scratchers would be requesting more accounts making the wait times be way longer than normal.
Contact Us doesn't take THAT long. The max is a week.
-Zorra-
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
How many accounts can you need? In a family of 4 kids, with 1 account for each person, that would work.

Read the edit I made to my post, most Scratchers have alt accounts to post WIPs, sneak peeks or random stuff.

Edit: kind of got ninja'd

Last edited by -Zorra- (Aug. 9, 2022 15:25:02)

vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#13)

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
How many accounts can you need? In a family of 4 kids, with 1 account for each person, that would work.
Alt accounts, test accounts, what if they want to move accounts?
They can delete their old account. Also, 1 alt is enough for most people.
vdiu
Scratcher
100+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
How many accounts can you need? In a family of 4 kids, with 1 account for each person, that would work.

Read the edit I made to my post, most Scratchers have alt accounts to post WIPs, sneak peeks or random stuff.

Edit: kind of got ninja'd
Ok, but they can still wait for a week for contact us.
ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

(#17)

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#13)

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

vdiu wrote:

(#6)

musicROCKS013 wrote:

I don't support the IP address. Many schools have students who create an account under the same IP, or the school's IP, and this could really make scratch at schools harder than it needs to be.
Ok, good point. I removed IP address from my post.
Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
How many accounts can you need? In a family of 4 kids, with 1 account for each person, that would work.
Alt accounts, test accounts, what if they want to move accounts?
They can delete their old account. Also, 1 alt is enough for most people.
Ok, so imagine a family of 4 kids as you said, each one of them wants an alt.
ThatOneWeirdDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Limit a email address, internet, browser, and operating system to 5 accounts

vdiu wrote:

(#18)

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

-Zorra- wrote:

vdiu wrote:

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

Users can just make another email, its not that hard and I don't think it would stop mass reporters.
Yeah, that's why I said IP address. But if you think about it, internet address, location and Browser/Operating system would also work.

People in the same family may use the same computer however, for a long time me and my siblings used Scratch on the same computer.
How many accounts can you need? In a family of 4 kids, with 1 account for each person, that would work.

Read the edit I made to my post, most Scratchers have alt accounts to post WIPs, sneak peeks or random stuff.

Edit: kind of got ninja'd
Ok, but they can still wait for a week for contact us.

I would appreciate it if you read my posts in full.

Last edited by ThatOneWeirdDude (Aug. 9, 2022 15:28:02)

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