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xXRedTheCoderXx
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Minecraft Scratching The Surface: Hardcore [1.18.1 Java SMP like 3rd Life]

In Double Life, they placed the enchanting table in an Ancient City, rather than spawn like in Last Life, which I think is a neat idea to make obtaining it a challenge. So, I've decided to have a vote on where everyone wants the enchanting table to be in the map. Here are the choices:

Spawn:


The Jungle Temple:


The Nether Fortress (note: there are two nether fortresses, so the enchanting table would only be in one of them):


Each member of the server gets one vote. In the event of a tie, I will be the tie breaker. I'll be tracking the poll on the Announcements post on page one. And the vote will last until the start of the server.

One last thing: due to some things IRL, I'm gonna have to change the start date of the server to be one day before, being the last day of June. (June 30) Sorry! But this'll probably the final date change.

Last edited by xXRedTheCoderXx (June 25, 2022 22:14:14)

minikiwigeek2
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Minecraft Scratching The Surface: Hardcore [1.18.1 Java SMP like 3rd Life]

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

In Double Life, they placed the enchanting table in an Ancient City, rather than spawn like in Last Life, which I think is a neat idea to make obtaining it a challenge. So, I've decided to have a vote on where everyone wants the enchanting table to be in the map. Here are the choices:

Spawn:


The Jungle Temple:


The Nether Fortress (note: there are two nether fortresses, so the enchanting table would only be in one of them):


Each member of the server gets one vote. In the event of a tie, I will be the tie breaker. I'll be tracking the poll on the Announcements post on page one. And the vote will last until the start of the server.

One last thing: due to some things IRL, I'm gonna have to change the start date of the server to be one day before, being the last day of June. (June 30) Sorry! But this'll probably the final date change.
Voting spawn, UNLESS the other locations aren't that far, in which case I feel that it makes sense to make it kind of a challenge to obtain it.
ThatOneWeirdDude
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Minecraft Scratching The Surface: Hardcore [1.18.1 Java SMP like 3rd Life]

please add

OneWeirdDood.

I'm going to probably end up dead first lol
ajsya
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Minecraft Scratching The Surface: Hardcore [1.18.1 Java SMP like 3rd Life]

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

In Double Life, they placed the enchanting table in an Ancient City, rather than spawn like in Last Life, which I think is a neat idea to make obtaining it a challenge. So, I've decided to have a vote on where everyone wants the enchanting table to be in the map. Here are the choices:

Spawn:


The Jungle Temple:


The Nether Fortress (note: there are two nether fortresses, so the enchanting table would only be in one of them):


Each member of the server gets one vote. In the event of a tie, I will be the tie breaker. I'll be tracking the poll on the Announcements post on page one. And the vote will last until the start of the server.

One last thing: due to some things IRL, I'm gonna have to change the start date of the server to be one day before, being the last day of June. (June 30) Sorry! But this'll probably the final date change.
Voting for the jungle temple so it's just not first come first serve. Though I assume the jungle temple won't be that hard to fine since spawn is literally a jungle based on the screenshot shared.
xXRedTheCoderXx
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ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:

please add

OneWeirdDood.

I'm going to probably end up dead first lol
Added.

minikiwigeek2 wrote:

Voting spawn, UNLESS the other locations aren't that far, in which case I feel that it makes sense to make it kind of a challenge to obtain it.

ajsya wrote:

Voting for the jungle temple so it's just not first come first serve. Though I assume the jungle temple won't be that hard to fine since spawn is literally a jungle based on the screenshot shared.
Yep, the temple's not that far from spawn at all. The fortress could be a little hard to find though, but the challenge might be good to some people.
minikiwigeek2
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Minecraft Scratching The Surface: Hardcore [1.18.1 Java SMP like 3rd Life]

One question: to stay true to 3rd Life, will Proximity Chat be on the server? I think it would be interesting for communication since typing takes more time. Also because you can only chat with people who are next to you. I don't think I'LL use it, per se, but still.

Last edited by minikiwigeek2 (June 26, 2022 13:08:43)

Bluebatstar
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Minecraft Scratching The Surface: Hardcore [1.18.1 Java SMP like 3rd Life]

minikiwigeek2 wrote:

One question: to stay true to 3rd Life, will Proximity Chat be on the server? I think it would be interesting for communication since typing takes more time. Also because you can only chat with people who are next to you. I don't think I'LL use it, per se, but still.
That would get us all banned.
minikiwigeek2
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Bluebatstar wrote:

minikiwigeek2 wrote:

One question: to stay true to 3rd Life, will Proximity Chat be on the server? I think it would be interesting for communication since typing takes more time. Also because you can only chat with people who are next to you. I don't think I'LL use it, per se, but still.
That would get us all banned.
“It's not illegal if you don't get cau-”
No, you're right. Waaaay too risky, especially for a KID'S website.

Last edited by minikiwigeek2 (June 26, 2022 13:25:17)

Laureldrop
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xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

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i vote spawn- just make it so no one can steal it i think
xXRedTheCoderXx
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Laureldrop wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

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i vote spawn- just make it so no one can steal it i think
You're supposed to be able to steal it as fighting over the enchantment table is supposed to be part of the game to make things more interesting, although I suppose I *could* make it so only red names can mine it. Actually, if no one objects, I can start implementing that tomorrow.
minikiwigeek2
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xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

Laureldrop wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

snip snip
i vote spawn- just make it so no one can steal it i think
You're supposed to be able to steal it as fighting over the enchantment table is supposed to be part of the game to make things more interesting, although I suppose I *could* make it so only red names can mine it. Actually, if no one objects, I can start implementing that tomorrow.

While that WOULD make things kind of interesting, I feel like it would be much harder, y'know? If EVERYONE is fighting over the enchantment table, however, more people die, and thus participate.

Last edited by minikiwigeek2 (June 28, 2022 11:45:28)

ajsya
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xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

Laureldrop wrote:

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

snip snip
i vote spawn- just make it so no one can steal it i think
You're supposed to be able to steal it as fighting over the enchantment table is supposed to be part of the game to make things more interesting, although I suppose I *could* make it so only red names can mine it. Actually, if no one objects, I can start implementing that tomorrow.
If you're not going to let green people pvp then the enchanting table shouldn't be mineable.
Bluebatstar
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Oh yeah, Ender Chests should be banned. Red Names stealing items is a part of the game so ender chests will make it too OP. I know Third/Last life never mentioned it but I don't think it's a coincidence that nobody made one.
xXRedTheCoderXx
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Bluebatstar wrote:

Oh yeah, Ender Chests should be banned. Red Names stealing items is a part of the game so ender chests will make it too OP. I know Third/Last life never mentioned it but I don't think it's a coincidence that nobody made one.
You're right, I've disabled that crafting recipe now.

ajsya wrote:

If you're not going to let green people pvp then the enchanting table shouldn't be mineable.
True, true, I've made it so only red names can mine it now.

minikiwigeek2 wrote:

While that WOULD make things kind of interesting, I feel like it would be much harder, y'know? If EVERYONE is fighting over the enchantment table, however, more people die, and thus participate.
I meant any objections to me making only red names be able to mine it, and fighting over the enchantment table was part of the original Last Life and was always supposed to be part of this game, too. Also, I hate to break it to you, but the server literally has “hardcore” in the name… :P the game's supposed to be hard and you're supposed to die, at least eventually.
LandonHarter
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I have two small objections:

1. In case of a tie, the player with the most play time wins. What if somebody ends up crouching in a sealed room & tries to stay on the server for as much time as possible?

2. Dead players can teleport to other players. What if a dead player tells a red-name player where to find another player?
-ShadowOfTheFuture-
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LandonHarter wrote:

I have two small objections:

1. In case of a tie, the player with the most play time wins. What if somebody ends up crouching in a sealed room & tries to stay on the server for as much time as possible?

2. Dead players can teleport to other players. What if a dead player tells a red-name player where to find another player?
1. There could be some way to make it so AFK time doesn't count towards the total, so if you stay still for longer than 4 or 5 minutes, your valid playtime stops increasing until you move again. You could also be automatically kicked from the server after standing still for a very long time.

Admittedly, you could circumvent all of these measures by using flowing water loops or other techniques to keep the player moving passively. However, I think a player staying online for extremely long periods of time would quickly become suspicious anyway, and you could always have an OP check on them to make sure they're playing legitimately.

2. I feel like chat messages sent by dead players should only be visible to other dead players.

Last edited by -ShadowOfTheFuture- (June 28, 2022 19:23:33)

xXRedTheCoderXx
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LandonHarter wrote:

I have two small objections:

1. In case of a tie, the player with the most play time wins. What if somebody ends up crouching in a sealed room & tries to stay on the server for as much time as possible?

2. Dead players can teleport to other players. What if a dead player tells a red-name player where to find another player?
1.

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:

But you can't just log on and be AFK as you hide forever either, because of the /location command I added. In any case, if I see that someone is trying to cheese the game I could remove them from it prematurely and set them on spectator mode if I really need to. I hope no one tries to do that anyway, it's not even fun, and totally undermines all the effort I put into making the game. :/
In addition, you can't just be on the game over screen forever either, as I have code that forces you to respawn after 10 seconds. (I think that's what I put it as anyway)

2. When you lose all your lives I've already made it so that a message appears on your screen telling you not to abuse your spectator mode by giving an unfair advantage to any player that's still alive. Worst case scenario I just ban any player that's cheating. However, if I need to, I can just make the /goto command only usable when the deathmatch starts, in which case, it can't be abused as every player would be able to use the /location command anyway.
minikiwigeek2
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Suggestion: add mod for among us imposter recipe. You can use glass and red clay to spawn red imposter from among us.

/jk
xXRedTheCoderXx
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-ShadowOfTheFuture- wrote:

1. There could be some way to make it so AFK time doesn't count towards the total, so if you stay still for longer than 4 or 5 minutes, your valid playtime stops increasing until you move again. You could also be automatically kicked from the server after standing still for a very long time.

Admittedly, you could circumvent all of these measures by using flowing water loops or other techniques to keep the player moving passively. However, I think a player staying online for extremely long periods of time would quickly become suspicious anyway, and you could always have an OP check on them to make sure they're playing legitimately.

2. I feel like chat messages sent by dead players should only be visible to other dead players.
1. That's a good idea, and yeah, I can do that if I need to.

2. Mmmm, I thought about that but:

2a. I'm not sure if that'd be possible without just completely not letting dead players use the chat. Besides, it might be fun to be able to see what the ghosts say sometimes, like at the end of 3rd Life in the Scar v. Grian duel. :P

2b. It can always be worked around by using some other communication method such as Scratch profiles or just whispering- I don't think it's possible to block the global whispering feature that all of Minehut has.
minikiwigeek2
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Minecraft Scratching The Surface: Hardcore [1.18.1 Java SMP like 3rd Life]

Suggestion: open the server to everyone 30 minutes in advance of the launch, but don't actually start the season until then. I was thinking we could have a launch party or something in-game, like Threeapalooza?

Other suggestion: open the server tomorrow to a select number of people so things can be tested out. Nobody will die during this time, and the world will be reset after this testing phase (using the same seed of course)

Last edited by minikiwigeek2 (June 28, 2022 22:35:31)

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