Epileptic warnings

Ham19-01-2011

OP wrote:
There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account

I don't think epileptic people will be comfortable sharing this information.
I think people should be encouraged to not create flashing light projects at all, because it can seperate them from the community.

E.g. There's an amazing game and an epileptic person wants to try it out. But guess what? The creator has a flashing intro so the perskn can't play.

I think it would be better if people don't make flashing light projects at all.

kat-coder

Support, because many have bad effects to flashing lights, so yeah. But how will this work? Will the system detect these blocks:

when green flag clicked
forever
change [ color] effect by (25)
end

Edit: This might be hard for the system when included in long scripts

Last edited by kat-coder (Feb. 13, 2022 13:18:59)

Maximouse

sharkode wrote:
There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account

Is this necessary? I think a warning is enough. Users probably wouldn't want to be asked about things like this while creating an account.

lm1996

What if you have a lot of projects that may have flashing lights/images, but you aren't sure and this is implemented? Would you have to comb through everything to check?

Myst--

Support! This would be helpful, although i'm not sure if you need to say your epileptic when you are creating an account. I'm sure people who are aren't going to decide to watch a project with an epileptic warning if they are epileptic.

-FlickeringCandle-

Maximouse wrote:
sharkode wrote:
There should also be a tickbox that says “I'm epileptic” when creating an account, if you tick it, you are banned from using projects with flashing light, this option can be toggled after the creation of the account
Is this necessary? I think a warning is enough. Users probably wouldn't want to be asked about things like this while creating an account.

Myst-- wrote:
Support! This would be helpful, although i'm not sure if you need to say your epileptic when you are creating an account. I'm sure people who are aren't going to decide to watch a project with an epileptic warning if they are epileptic.

I agree, I dont see the need for the tickbox. People should be able to make their own decisions.

-FlickeringCandle-

lm1996 wrote:
What if you have a lot of projects that may have flashing lights/images, but you aren't sure and this is implemented? Would you have to comb through everything to check?

Probably. If it prevents people from having seizures or something else awful, then I'd say it's worth it.

Last edited by -FlickeringCandle- (Feb. 14, 2022 16:22:56)

scratchering_coder

No support, there's already a workaround by making a sprite that popups at the start and then like “press <space> to continue”.

-FlickeringCandle-

scratchering_coder wrote:
No support, there's already a workaround by making a sprite that popups at the start and then like “press <space> to continue”.

Its not an effective workaround imo, as literally nobody does it, a toggleable option will greatly encourage people to give proper warning.

Yellowsheep43

What would happen to projects with these flashing lights that were shared before this update? Would users have to manually go in and add it in? What if you had thousands of projects (like me) and won't be able to find the project(s) with flashing lights?

Xonder

Yellowsheep43 wrote:
What would happen to projects with these flashing lights that were shared before this update? Would users have to manually go in and add it in? What if you had thousands of projects (like me) and won't be able to find the project(s) with flashing lights?

I mean- it's a matter of safety. You can probably get friends to help you comb through the studios for the ones w/ flashing lights but like- again- its a safety concern.

sharkode

Ham19-01-2011 wrote:
I don't think epileptic people will be comfortable sharing this information.

It's kept private

I think people should be encouraged to not create flashing light projects at all, because it can seperate them from the community.

I don't think that's possible

Maximouse

sharkode wrote:
Ham19-01-2011 wrote:
I don't think epileptic people will be comfortable sharing this information.
It's kept private

The Scratch Team would have access to it.

Ham19-01-2011

sharkode wrote:
Ham19-01-2011 wrote:
I don't think epileptic people will be comfortable sharing this information.
It's kept private
I think people should be encouraged to not create flashing light projects at all, because it can seperate them from the community.
I don't think that's possible

Yes, it is almost impossible, but we should at least try to minimise those projects. Sometimes, people's profile pictures flash, and I think that is the first thing that should be discouraged.

PeteyTheParrot

I support!! I’m not epileptic but I hate projects with heavy flashing lights in ‘em, so this would be nice.

sharkode

Ham19-01-2011 wrote:
sharkode wrote:
Ham19-01-2011 wrote:
I don't think epileptic people will be comfortable sharing this information.
It's kept private
I think people should be encouraged to not create flashing light projects at all, because it can seperate them from the community.
I don't think that's possible
Yes, it is almost impossible, but we should at least try to minimise those projects. Sometimes, people's profile pictures flash, and I think that is the first thing that should be discouraged.

flashing pfp should be discouraged, but I don't think it's realistic to minimise/NFE projects with flashing lights

Ham19-01-2011

sharkode wrote:
flashing pfp should be discouraged, but I don't think it's realistic to minimise/NFE projects with flashing lights

I agree. I guess there are too many projects with flashing lights, so this warning would be useful in the end.

I have a suggestion though: maybe the project creator could set a duration of time it shows up? Of course, there has to be a minimum and a maximum, so people have time to react and to avoid it being misused.

The minimum could be 4-5 secs and a maximum of 10-11 secs.

There could also be a warning sign, when epileptic people see the thumbnail, they wouldn't click on it anyway.

Mockup:

(the project doesn't actually have flashing lights, it's just an example)

Last edited by Ham19-01-2011 (Feb. 16, 2022 11:34:39)

lm1996

-FlickeringCandle- wrote:
lm1996 wrote:
What if you have a lot of projects that may have flashing lights/images, but you aren't sure and this is implemented? Would you have to comb through everything to check?

Probably. If it prevents people from having seizures or something else awful, then I'd say it's worth it.

What if someone is incredibly lazy in this sort of stuff or wants people to have seizures and doesn't check their projects?

Jbear_

scratchering_coder wrote:
No support, there's already a workaround by making a sprite that popups at the start and then like “press <space> to continue”.

Xonder

lm1996 wrote:
-FlickeringCandle- wrote:
lm1996 wrote:
What if you have a lot of projects that may have flashing lights/images, but you aren't sure and this is implemented? Would you have to comb through everything to check?

Probably. If it prevents people from having seizures or something else awful, then I'd say it's worth it.
What if someone is incredibly lazy in this sort of stuff or wants people to have seizures and doesn't check their projects?

Then you report those projects.

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