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k0d3rrr
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Epileptic warnings

Bring back this topic.
hi875230163394
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Epileptic warnings

I know that the amount of flashing lights that could trigger seizures varies from person to person, but what would be the baseline? what would be enough flashing lights to be considered needing a warning? this is awfully vague, and could a project with tons of clones that are constantly moving that produces a strobe-like effect but not outright flashing lights be considered bad? wouldn't there need to be some legal stuff for having warnings like these? what would somebody do if they werent sure something could cause a seizure?
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

hi875230163394 wrote:

I know that the amount of flashing lights that could trigger seizures varies from person to person, but what would be the baseline? what would be enough flashing lights to be considered needing a warning? this is awfully vague, and could a project with tons of clones that are constantly moving that produces a strobe-like effect but not outright flashing lights be considered bad? wouldn't there need to be some legal stuff for having warnings like these? what would somebody do if they werent sure something could cause a seizure?
Excellent question, people should turn on epileptic warning if the project contains any flashing (doesn't have to be something like a flashbang), even the minor ones, it should be marked “flashing lights”
Edit: My 1000th post according to Ocular, does anyone know why is there a minor difference between your post count on Scratch and Ocular?

Last edited by sharkode (Feb. 10, 2022 06:22:24)

RL1123
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Epileptic warnings

By the way, is this automatic or does the project creator have to turn this warning on?
han614698
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Epileptic warnings

This is a bit extreme. If feel like it shouldn’t be reportable.
lolecksdeehaha
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Epileptic warnings

han614698 wrote:

This is a bit extreme. If feel like it shouldn’t be reportable.
They can quite easily, kill people. At least unshare the project with a warning, maybe not instaban.
jackson49
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Epileptic warnings

lolecksdeehaha wrote:

han614698 wrote:

This is a bit extreme. If feel like it shouldn’t be reportable.
They can quite easily, kill people. At least unshare the project with a warning, maybe not instaban.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she's talking about reporting a project for having a false epileptic warning

Last edited by jackson49 (Feb. 10, 2022 05:45:26)

sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

jackson49 wrote:

lolecksdeehaha wrote:

han614698 wrote:

This is a bit extreme. If feel like it shouldn’t be reportable.
They can quite easily, kill people. At least unshare the project with a warning, maybe not instaban.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she's talking about reporting a project for having a false epileptic warning
You can't…
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

han614698 wrote:

This is a bit extreme. If feel like it shouldn’t be reportable.
If extreme violence is reportable (which I fully agree with), why shouldn't we also make something like this reportable? It's far more dangerous than violence as one of these projects could directly kill a person
jackson49
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Epileptic warnings

sharkode wrote:

jackson49 wrote:

lolecksdeehaha wrote:

han614698 wrote:

This is a bit extreme. If feel like it shouldn’t be reportable.
They can quite easily, kill people. At least unshare the project with a warning, maybe not instaban.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think she's talking about reporting a project for having a false epileptic warning
You can't…
Sorry, I read this post before it was edited

sharkode wrote:

I forgot to say you can also report a project if it does that
Actually no, how would you know if a project doesn't have flashing lights? It might do contain flashing lights but it has to be triggered by special gameplay (like throwing a flashbang grenade)
I also saw this post

7salad3salad wrote:

True, it could save their lives.
If abused, just report it.

Last edited by jackson49 (Feb. 10, 2022 06:25:29)

sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

7salad3salad wrote:

True, it could save their lives.
If abused, just report it.
Imagine a game getting marked as “no flashing light” as ST after numerous reports and an epileptic person starts playing it, it's all fun and games till the enemy throws a flashbang…
Eagle138
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Epileptic warnings

Support. Although the ‘i am epileptic’ setting may not be necessary as people may forget to turn it on/accidentally turn it on, it's definitely important to have a warning.
T0RRENT_
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Epileptic warnings

Support, but how would guests get blocked from the project?
sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

T0RRENT_ wrote:

Support, but how would guests get blocked from the project?
Good question, they don't, they will receive a warning screen instead
-FlickeringCandle-
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Epileptic warnings

I support, however from my rather brief and limited knowledge of epilepsy, not everyone with epilepsy is sensitive to flashing lights, and I would therefore change the tickbox option to something more along the lines of “I am sensitive to flashing lights” - please do correct me if this information about epilepsy is wrong though, and take the information with a grain of salt. Thanks!

Last edited by -FlickeringCandle- (Feb. 13, 2022 07:32:11)

sharkode
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Epileptic warnings

-FlickeringCandle- wrote:

I support, however from my rather brief and limited knowledge of epilepsy, not everyone with epilepsy is sensitive to flashing lights, and I would therefore change the tickbox option to something more along the lines of “I am sensitive to flashing lights” - please do correct me if this information about epilepsy is wrong though, and take the information with a grain of salt. Thanks!
I barely know anything about epilepsy, the only thing I know at the time of creating this suggestion is that flashing lights could cause seizure
-FlickeringCandle-
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Epileptic warnings

sharkode wrote:

-FlickeringCandle- wrote:

I support, however from my rather brief and limited knowledge of epilepsy, not everyone with epilepsy is sensitive to flashing lights, and I would therefore change the tickbox option to something more along the lines of “I am sensitive to flashing lights” - please do correct me if this information about epilepsy is wrong though, and take the information with a grain of salt. Thanks!
I barely know anything about epilepsy, the only thing I know at the time of creating this suggestion is that flashing lights could cause seizure

Yes, for some people with epilepsy, but not all. I'm just suggesting that the wording be changed so that the tickbox is not inclusive of those with epilepsy who are not photosensitive.
k0d3rrr
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Epileptic warnings

I made a few mock-ups to support this idea:
The checkbox in Account Settings:


The original warning message (from the OP):

My warning message (edited to make more sense):

Mock-up for the warning checkbox whenever…
-iviedwall-
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500+ posts

Epileptic warnings

Support, at least someone have to be alive after browsing the Internet.
-iviedwall-
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Epileptic warnings

k0d3rrr wrote:

I made a few mock-ups to support this idea:
The checkbox in Account Settings:
The original warning message (from the OP):
My warning message (edited to make more sense):
Mock-up for the warning checkbox whenever…
You can add an icon that looks like an eye with a cross on it, which means epilepsy.

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