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- dertermenter
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No. You are completely wrong. Being constructive should be enforced.They have the right to refrain from saying why they support; your response was unnecessary and spam.If you support you say support and why I do this using lists, but this would be easier Simi-Support.
- han614698
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Where is it in the rules you have to say the reason why? They have the right of speech, this is not in the terms of use or community guidlines.No. You are completely wrong. Being constructive should be enforced.They have the right to refrain from saying why they support; your response was unnecessary and spam.If you support you say support and why I do this using lists, but this would be easier Simi-Support.
(Actually, they did say why they semi-supported, but I was too lazy to point that out).
- dertermenter
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But you should be constructive, and there is a whole section about being constructive in the CGWhere is it in the rules you have to say the reason why? They have the right of speech, this is not in the terms of use or community guidlines.No. You are completely wrong. Being constructive should be enforced.They have the right to refrain from saying why they support; your response was unnecessary and spam.If you support you say support and why I do this using lists, but this would be easier Simi-Support.
(Actually, they did say why they semi-supported, but I was too lazy to point that out).
- gosoccerboy5
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The right of speech means you can say what you want, but it does not say you are free of consequences. Where is it in the rules you have to say the reason why? They have the right of speech, this is not in the terms of use or community guidlines.
And besides, this is the Scratch forums, not some public meeting where “right of speech” would be more relevant there. You can ask a moderator such as @Harakou and they will confirm that you should state your reason why you support. Please, let's not get offtopic (I would discuss this on your profile but that's closed)
It's also mentioned as the first thing in this sticky, and Paddle2See mentioned it recently here.
Last edited by gosoccerboy5 (March 4, 2021 16:44:57)
- the2000
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No, they don't. I take it that you don't wear face-masks either; the people trying to enforce that are taking away your rights after all!They have the right to refrain from saying why they support; your response was unnecessary and spam.If you support you say support and why I do this using lists, but this would be easier Simi-Support.
- ninjaMAR
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What Maybe rename this to “Log” or “Logger”, as it's only for prints/logs. By saying “logs”, it should probably be named “Logs”.
Meanwhile, just do this:delete all of [Logs v] ::list // use to clear logs
add [meow meow meeeeowwwww] to [Logs v] // change meow to anything, prints to log
- Socialix
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For some people, debug/output windows are for errors, warnings, prints, etc. However, Scratch doesn't have errors or warnings (unless you make it yourself) so it would be useless to call them debug/output windows. Logs seem better.What Maybe rename this to “Log” or “Logger”, as it's only for prints/logs. By saying “logs”, it should probably be named “Logs”.
Meanwhile, just do this:delete all of [Logs v] ::list // use to clear logs
add [meow meow meeeeowwwww] to [Logs v] // change meow to anything, prints to log
- ninjaMAR
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it posted twice
Last edited by ninjaMAR (March 4, 2021 19:41:50)
- gosoccerboy5
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I mean, debug window implies that you're solving bugs, which do occur on Scratch (assuming bugs can be both syntax and semantics errors) For some people, debug/output windows are for errors, warnings, prints, etc. However, Scratch doesn't have errors or warnings (unless you make it yourself) so it would be useless to call them debug/output windows. Logs seem better.
- ninjaMAR
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Its for debugging but you can also use it for logsFor some people, debug/output windows are for errors, warnings, prints, etc. However, Scratch doesn't have errors or warnings (unless you make it yourself) so it would be useless to call them debug/output windows. Logs seem better.What Maybe rename this to “Log” or “Logger”, as it's only for prints/logs. By saying “logs”, it should probably be named “Logs”.
Meanwhile, just do this:delete all of [Logs v] ::list // use to clear logs
add [meow meow meeeeowwwww] to [Logs v] // change meow to anything, prints to log
- PGBFLITE6373
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But its is in the community guildlines lolWhere is it in the rules you have to say the reason why? They have the right of speech, this is not in the terms of use or community guidlines.No. You are completely wrong. Being constructive should be enforced.They have the right to refrain from saying why they support; your response was unnecessary and spam.If you support you say support and why I do this using lists, but this would be easier Simi-Support.
(Actually, they did say why they semi-supported, but I was too lazy to point that out).
- gosoccerboy5
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I'm surprised no one's checked for dupes, I'll search a bit and see what i can find
- han614698
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Yes, I do.No, they don't. I take it that you don't wear face-masks either; the people trying to enforce that are taking away your rights after all!They have the right to refrain from saying why they support; your response was unnecessary and spam.If you support you say support and why I do this using lists, but this would be easier Simi-Support.
- imfh
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If the post was only “I do this using lists, but this would be easier,” it would be constructive, so I don’t see what the issue is. Even if it is close to being unconstructive, bringing it up, and worse, arguing over it, only makes the problem worse.No. You are completely wrong. Being constructive should be enforced.They have the right to refrain from saying why they support; your response was unnecessary and spam.If you support you say support and why I do this using lists, but this would be easier Simi-Support.
Using lists as a workaround is a very good point. What advantage does this suggestion have over lists? Lists are already implemented and act about the same. The main disadvantages I can think of are no line wrapping, no auto scroll, and it covers up part of the stage. These issues are not difficult to work around though. In light of lists, I don’t know that adding a console would be useful enough to convince the Scratch Team to go through the effort of implementing it.
define log (text)
insert (text) at (1 v) of [Log v] // Doesn’t require scrolling
- Leekalo
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What is debugging? How can you even use it?