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E_Equals_EmCeCube3
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Za-Chary wrote:

Well, I would think the existing entry already covers this. Certainly if someone suggested “Delete your comments on others' profiles,” then this would be rejected under 6.1. I'm a little puzzled as to why we would want a separate entry for this.

Now, I could see adding a little blurb to 6.1 specifying that this includes studio comments. However, I believe I recall that you can delete certain comments made in a studio. Under what circumstances are you currently able to delete a comment in a studio?
Like @mtech22, I see them as two distinct suggestions. The one that's currently on the list suggests for a Scratcher to be able to delete their own comments everywhere, while the one I brought up suggests owners/managers of a studio to be able to delete other Scratchers' comments in their studio. (akin to the way Scratchers can delete any comment on their profile or projects)

If I showed someone suggesting the latter a quote from 6.1, I don't think they'd be convinced that their suggestion is actually rejected for that reason.

I think a blurb to add to the bottom of 6.1 and adding a link to the post by Paddle confirming the rejection would definitely do it well.
Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

E_Equals_EmCeCube3 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Well, I would think the existing entry already covers this. Certainly if someone suggested “Delete your comments on others' profiles,” then this would be rejected under 6.1. I'm a little puzzled as to why we would want a separate entry for this.

Now, I could see adding a little blurb to 6.1 specifying that this includes studio comments. However, I believe I recall that you can delete certain comments made in a studio. Under what circumstances are you currently able to delete a comment in a studio?
Like @mtech22, I see them as two distinct suggestions. The one that's currently on the list suggests for a Scratcher to be able to delete their own comments everywhere, while the one I brought up suggests owners/managers of a studio to be able to delete other Scratchers' comments in their studio. (akin to the way Scratchers can delete any comment on their profile or projects)

If I showed someone suggesting the latter a quote from 6.1, I don't think they'd be convinced that their suggestion is actually rejected for that reason.

I think a blurb to add to the bottom of 6.1 and adding a link to the post by Paddle confirming the rejection would definitely do it well.
A convincing argument. Remind me in 3 days (no less) if I don't make the change by then.
Ihatr
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

removed

Last edited by Ihatr (Oct. 26, 2020 13:37:53)

Bluebatstar
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Ihatr wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

I made a project that allows you to easily quote this topic if someone suggests a rejected suggestion, so you don't have to burn time finding and quoting the entry. It can be found here. Could you consider including it in the sticky, so it could be even more helpful? Thanks!
Is it not finished yet? I typed in 3.5 and did not get a reason…
Seems to work for me. Maybe I was making some changes at the time you viewed it. It could also be because it has some text at the beginning and end, and the text at the beginning fills up the beginning. Try again.
3.5 only gives you a blank quote box.
_-BuRnInGfLaMeS-_
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Bluebatstar wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

I made a project that allows you to easily quote this topic if someone suggests a rejected suggestion, so you don't have to burn time finding and quoting the entry. It can be found here. Could you consider including it in the sticky, so it could be even more helpful? Thanks!
Is it not finished yet? I typed in 3.5 and did not get a reason…
Seems to work for me. Maybe I was making some changes at the time you viewed it. It could also be because it has some text at the beginning and end, and the text at the beginning fills up the beginning. Try again.
3.5 only gives you a blank quote box.
That's because there isn't a 3.5 on the list yet, so it has nothing to quote.
Ihatr
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Bluebatstar wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

I made a project that allows you to easily quote this topic if someone suggests a rejected suggestion, so you don't have to burn time finding and quoting the entry. It can be found here. Could you consider including it in the sticky, so it could be even more helpful? Thanks!
Is it not finished yet? I typed in 3.5 and did not get a reason…
Seems to work for me. Maybe I was making some changes at the time you viewed it. It could also be because it has some text at the beginning and end, and the text at the beginning fills up the beginning. Try again.
3.5 only gives you a blank quote box.
I found out that this is caused because I didn't add a 3.5, as it didn't exist. So, it doesn't do anything, as it has no information to grab.
mtech22
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

mtech22 wrote:

Is adding drawing tablet support rejected? I've seen multiple suggestions about it that were closed
Ihatr
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Za-Chary wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

I made a project that allows you to easily quote this topic if someone suggests a rejected suggestion, so you don't have to burn time finding and quoting the entry. It can be found here. Could you consider including it in the sticky, so it could be even more helpful? Thanks!
Is it not finished yet? I typed in 3.5 and did not get a reason…
Since it's fixed, is it ready to be added?
Bluebatstar
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

_-BuRnInGfLaMeS-_ wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

I made a project that allows you to easily quote this topic if someone suggests a rejected suggestion, so you don't have to burn time finding and quoting the entry. It can be found here. Could you consider including it in the sticky, so it could be even more helpful? Thanks!
Is it not finished yet? I typed in 3.5 and did not get a reason…
Seems to work for me. Maybe I was making some changes at the time you viewed it. It could also be because it has some text at the beginning and end, and the text at the beginning fills up the beginning. Try again.
3.5 only gives you a blank quote box.
That's because there isn't a 3.5 on the list yet, so it has nothing to quote.
Oh, didn't notice that… I just assumed something was supposed to come up because that's the one @Za-Chary was talking about.
-0Nebula0-
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Bluebatstar wrote:

_-BuRnInGfLaMeS-_ wrote:

Bluebatstar wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

Ihatr wrote:

I made a project that allows you to easily quote this topic if someone suggests a rejected suggestion, so you don't have to burn time finding and quoting the entry. It can be found here. Could you consider including it in the sticky, so it could be even more helpful? Thanks!
Is it not finished yet? I typed in 3.5 and did not get a reason…
Seems to work for me. Maybe I was making some changes at the time you viewed it. It could also be because it has some text at the beginning and end, and the text at the beginning fills up the beginning. Try again.
3.5 only gives you a blank quote box.
That's because there isn't a 3.5 on the list yet, so it has nothing to quote.
Oh, didn't notice that… I just assumed something was supposed to come up because that's the one @Za-Chary was talking about.
wait… there isnt a 3.5?
MrFluffyPenguins
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

The link in “censor projects with no coding” doesn't work.
Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

The link in “censor projects with no coding” doesn't work.
Thanks, I will post the main rejection quote below and then redirect the link to it.
Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Paddle2See wrote:

Blaze349 wrote:

No support.

With Scratch, you can program your own interactive stories, games, and animations — and share your creations with others in the online community.

Scratch helps young people learn to think creatively, reason systematically, and work collaboratively — essential skills for life in the 21st century.

Scratch is a project of the Lifelong Kindergarten Group at the MIT Media Lab. It is provided free of charge.

Imagine, Program, Share

Scratch's focus is not on programming but on logical, creative thinking to solve problems using a set of tools and sharing it with the wider community. Scratch is not for people who want to learn programming but for those who want to learn why they are programming what they are programming.
Right - Scratch is about more than just programming. The Lifelong Kindergarten Group (part of the MIT Media Lab) that created Scratch is interested in enabling digital creativity - in many forms. So, while programming with Scratchblocks is one way to be creative, so is displaying art or creating a story through roleplaying comments.

Thanks for your suggestion - but we are not currently interested in limiting the kinds of creative activities that take place on Scratch.
TigeyTheTiger
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

i learned JAVASCRIPT!!!!!!!
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-
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TigeyTheTiger wrote:

i learned JAVASCRIPT!!!!!!!
Cool! Why don't you talk more about that here so that more people will see it?
TheNothingBird
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Nice! i think you typed alot!
Bluebatstar
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Would an Advanced version of Scratch be rejected? I see it suggested relatively frequently, and people always quote 7.2 when saying it's rejected, which I believe doesn't fit.
Za-Chary
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Bluebatstar wrote:

Would an Advanced version of Scratch be rejected? I see it suggested relatively frequently, and people always quote 7.2 when saying it's rejected, which I believe doesn't fit.
I think that's one of those suggestions that really depends on what the suggestion is. For instance, I've seen suggestions of “Make an advanced version of Scratch so you can put 3D Scratch in it” — that would be rejected, since 3D Scratch is rejected. Similar to “Advanced version of Scratch that allows you to code using text” — that is rejected since text-based coding is rejected. That is also similar to “Advanced version of Scratch where you must be 13+ to use it” — that is rejected since age-restricted content is rejected.

Now, let us suppose that someone suggests something like “Advanced version of Scratch with extra math functions, like exponent, nth root, integral, derivative, summation, product, and complex numbers.” Then the main suggestion isn't really an “advanced” version of Scratch — rather, the suggestion is extra math blocks. We could honestly implement extra math blocks without needing to introduce a separate “advanced” Scratch. Either we could just include the blocks in the standard palette, or we could make a “math extension” for them.

If someone suggests “Advanced version of Scratch” but doesn't state how this is different from normal Scratch, then that's not really much of a suggestion. It's like suggesting “Improve the Scratch editor” but not saying what needs to be improved about it. So usually “Advanced version of Scratch” is not itself a suggestion — rather, there is something else being suggested. In that case, whether or not it is rejected depends on whether their idea of an “advanced Scratch” is rejected.

On the other hand, I could possibly be wrong, so if you have some examples of “Advanced version of Scratch” suggestions, I'd like to see them.
Super_Scratch_Bros20
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Rejected (I'll get duplicates in a second)

https://scratch-mit-edu.ezproxyberklee.flo.org/discuss/topic/436087/?page=1#post-4382461

I believe I've seen @xXRedTheCoderXx make one, too, but I can't find the link anymore; it's buried under a large quantity of questions on the abbreviation.

I think this might be worth adding, including a misunderstanding that it is not allowed, seems rejected multiple times, and (although this is not Suggestions), many users don't know the answer judging by the number of questions in QaS about it, and many QaS users also use Suggestions.

Last edited by Super_Scratch_Bros20 (Oct. 29, 2020 14:31:22)

xXRedTheCoderXx
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 wrote:

I believe I've seen @xXRedTheCoderXx make one, too, but I can't find the link anymore; it's buried under a large quantity of questions on the abbreviation.
Lol no, I've actually never made a suggestion about that. You must've mistaken for another person or something.

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