make forums use HTML instead of BBcode

SausageMcSauce

Allowing JavaScript to be used in forum posts might allow XSS (Cross-Site Scripting), a vulnerability which could cause malicious users to make scripts that do malicious things.

scratch978654

TapingAnimations wrote:
scratch978654 wrote:
TapingAnimations wrote:
no support, there are many kids like me using the forums and most of the kids (Including me) don't know how to use html, BBcode is fine and it would be very confusing to use html (For kids), plus in all of the Forums I went to they all used BBcode.
Why's everyone underestimating kids.
Guess my age. For one thing it's less than 13.
I'm at an advanced level in HTML, CSS and js.
Besides, I support. It helps people learn HTML and it's really just replacing [b] with <b>.
And what does CSS and js ,mean? I never heard of it

CSS is Cascading Style Sheets - it's how to style a website to have background colors, different font sizes, layouts etc.
JS is JavaScript - to add functionality to websites. The Scratch 3 editor was made with JS.

TapingAnimations

scratch978654 wrote:
TapingAnimations wrote:
scratch978654 wrote:
TapingAnimations wrote:
no support, there are many kids like me using the forums and most of the kids (Including me) don't know how to use html, BBcode is fine and it would be very confusing to use html (For kids), plus in all of the Forums I went to they all used BBcode.
Why's everyone underestimating kids.
Guess my age. For one thing it's less than 13.
I'm at an advanced level in HTML, CSS and js.
Besides, I support. It helps people learn HTML and it's really just replacing [b] with <b>.
And what does CSS and js ,mean? I never heard of it
CSS is Cascading Style Sheets - it's how to style a website to have background colors, different font sizes, layouts etc.
JS is JavaScript - to add functionality to websites. The Scratch 3 editor was made with JS.

oh ok html is still confusing

Burgher1679

Inkulumo wrote:
No support BBCode is fine and most Scratchers don't understand nor wish to learn HTML syntax.

no support for that

ThatOneWeirdDude

Yeah! Lets mess up the forums by letting people use HTML, therefore causing bugs in the sites layout!
Yeah! Lets basically punish children for not knowing HTML!
Yeah! Lets lag the forums even more by adding the ability to embed scratch projects in a post!
Yeah! Lets let users use CSS and screw up the page even ore!
Yeah! Lets turn the forums into an apocalyptic wasteland.

TapingAnimations

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:
Yeah! Lets mess up the forums by letting people use HTML, therefore causing bugs in the sites layout!
Yeah! Lets basically punish children for not knowing HTML!
Yeah! Lets lag the forums even more by adding the ability to embed scratch projects in a post!
Yeah! Lets let users use CSS and screw up the page even ore!
Yeah! Lets turn the forums into an apocalyptic wasteland.

True, very true

space_elephant

Maybe markdown could be used? Officially, markdown supports all html tags, but it should be okay with just <iframe> and <!– –>. Markdown works with all languages, unlike BBCode, and adds lots of thing like:

*italics*, **bold**, __underline__, ~~stroke~~, `single line code`
```javascript
var multiline;
javascript(code);
```
* ordered
* lists
1. unordered
2. lists

The single line code cannot be made with the current forums. The rest would look like

italics, bold, underline, stroke
var multiline;
javascript(code);
ordered
lists
unordered
lists

sportfan999

No support. I don't really want to relearn the block syntax, so I don't support.

Ihatr

BBCode is a very simple, easy method to learn how to style and format in. Scratch is designed to be easy and simple. So, we should stick with BBCode.

Yeetoburro1

Abselutely no support. This would be very confusing to 90% of users, many of which would simply just leave the forums (That includes me). Also, you expect a 8 year old to understand HTML?

TapingAnimations

Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Abselutely no support. This would be very confusing to 90% of users, many of which would simply just leave the forums (That includes me). Also, you expect a 8 year old to understand HTML?

I'm not even learning HTML at my school yet, I don't even know how it works

SuperKamekArea

Okay but can there be a bbcode tag to prevent escaped html while this is in development?
It would be this when viewed in the source editor or escaped:
[noescape]<marquee>obsolete html</marquee>[/noescape]
And <iframe> support
and when released, a– oh, just < and >
I would support full html 5 support (cause I mean, shops, right? they need it)
Example (sorry for the image being massive):

Well, I want to eventually show my best attempt at a bad website, and currently it is very hard without animated gifs like that example above

scratch978654

Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Abselutely no support. This would be very confusing to 90% of users, many of which would simply just leave the forums (That includes me). Also, you expect a 8 year old to understand HTML?

It's just replacing [ with < and ] with >. It also adds many more features, is better semantically, and you can also style forum posts…?

Also why is everyone saying kids don't understand anything? Heck, you know how I would feel if anyone told me “oh you're not 13 yet you son't understand HTML”? It's not even a programming language

TapingAnimations

scratch978654 wrote:
Also why is everyone saying kids don't understand anything? Heck, you know how I would feel if anyone told me “oh you're not 13 yet you son't understand HTML”? It's not even a programming language

Their saying most kids don't understand HTML including me and I agree with Yeetoburro1, I also might leave the forums if they add HTML

ThatOneWeirdDude

scratch978654 wrote:
Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Abselutely no support. This would be very confusing to 90% of users, many of which would simply just leave the forums (That includes me). Also, you expect a 8 year old to understand HTML?
It's just replacing [ with < and ] with >. It also adds many more features, is better semantically, and you can also style forum posts…?

Also why is everyone saying kids don't understand anything? Heck, you know how I would feel if anyone told me “oh you're not 13 yet you son't understand HTML”? It's not even a programming language

It is a markup language that sends instructions to your computer, it is a coding language.

With HTML added, it would mess up the forums entirely, and just because you know how to use it doesnt mean that others wont struggle a lot with it.

Last edited by ThatOneWeirdDude (Sept. 17, 2020 05:28:54)

scratch978654

ThatOneWeirdDude wrote:
scratch978654 wrote:
Yeetoburro1 wrote:
Abselutely no support. This would be very confusing to 90% of users, many of which would simply just leave the forums (That includes me). Also, you expect a 8 year old to understand HTML?
It's just replacing [ with < and ] with >. It also adds many more features, is better semantically, and you can also style forum posts…?

Also why is everyone saying kids don't understand anything? Heck, you know how I would feel if anyone told me “oh you're not 13 yet you son't understand HTML”? It's not even a programming language
It is a markup language that sends instructions to your computer, it is a coding language.

With HTML added, it would mess up the forums entirely, and just because you know how to use it doesnt mean that others wont struggle a lot * it.

Markup languages aren't Turing complete. For example they don't have conditionals, loops, functions etc.
Also, “* it”?

p2Ep2E

Some reasons why that shouldn't be done:

XSSs
You're basically telling the people “Hey! You can use HTML in the forums! You could do XSS stuff but we rely on you not doing that since it is against the CGs.”
You could more or less remove the CGs by doing some crazy XSS stuff
OMG XSS stuff
It would be much more boring then finding an unintended XSS and noone likes boring stuff

fdreerf

It's a forum post. It's just text that's meant to be read, and should be easy to type. Why do we need any more formatting options than bold, italics, underline, strikethrough, color, center, code, two extra sizes, links, images, lists of bulleted and enumerated varieties, quotes, emojis, and Scratchblocks?

Last edited by fdreerf (Sept. 17, 2020 14:51:23)

p2Ep2E

fdreerf wrote:
It's a forum post. It's just text that's meant to be read, and should be easy to type. Why do we need any more formatting options than bold, italics, underline, strikethrough, color, center, code, two extra sizes, links, images, lists of bulleted and enumerated varieties, quotes, emojis, and Scratchblocks?

You don't like XSSs? This would add that!

fdreerf

p2Ep2E wrote:
fdreerf wrote:
It's a forum post. It's just text that's meant to be read, and should be easy to type. Why do we need any more formatting options than bold, italics, underline, strikethrough, color, center, code, two extra sizes, links, images, lists of bulleted and enumerated varieties, quotes, emojis, and Scratchblocks?
You don't like XSSs? This would add that!

How can I like something I don't know anything about?

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