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- Za-Chary
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Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
I know I own the sticky, but I'm suggesting this because I don't want to just add random ideas to the list if they don't even deserve to be rejected.
Anyway, people suggest cloud lists to Scratch quite a lot. It's understandable, as it could be a convenient way to store data in a list. However, in the forums, the Scratch Team hasn't really commented on the possibility, and I don't think they're likely to add them, because:
Since it doesn't seem like the Scratch Team plans on adding this feature to Scratch, I think there should be a “formal” rejection so I can add it to the list. That way, no one gets confused in the future.
Unless it seems like I can already add it, based on the comment by @designerd? It would be nice if a Scratch Team member gave a sort of notice on the forums, though — and none of the “cloud list” suggestion topics that I've seen were closed by a Scratch Team member.
What do you guys think?
Anyway, people suggest cloud lists to Scratch quite a lot. It's understandable, as it could be a convenient way to store data in a list. However, in the forums, the Scratch Team hasn't really commented on the possibility, and I don't think they're likely to add them, because:
- This could allow people to bypass the 10 variable limit (unless cloud lists were limited to only one list allowed with 10 entries, which is unfeasible).
- It can be worked around using cloud variables.
- A Scratch Team member (@designerd) had commented on this saying “Cloud Lists are not something we plan on adding any time soon or ever. Sorry for the confusion.”
Since it doesn't seem like the Scratch Team plans on adding this feature to Scratch, I think there should be a “formal” rejection so I can add it to the list. That way, no one gets confused in the future.
Unless it seems like I can already add it, based on the comment by @designerd? It would be nice if a Scratch Team member gave a sort of notice on the forums, though — and none of the “cloud list” suggestion topics that I've seen were closed by a Scratch Team member.
What do you guys think?
Last edited by Za-Chary (Jan. 3, 2020 03:00:19)
- Luvexina
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Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
When was the “Cloud Lists are not something we plan on adding any time soon or ever. Sorry for the confusion.” said? If it was a long time ago, the ST might have changed their minds.
- MaximunPokeMaster
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Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
support, i think cloud lists were actually once on the 1st rejected suggestions list
- Za-Chary
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1000+ posts
Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
It was said about 3 months ago on @designerd's profile. Not too hard to find if you scroll through. When was the “Cloud Lists are not something we plan on adding any time soon or ever. Sorry for the confusion.” said? If it was a long time ago, the ST might have changed their minds.
As a result, I wouldn't consider 3 months to be a “long time”.
- NilsTheBest
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Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
I think you should ask @designerd or another member of the ST for clarification about why it's rejected. Besides, it seems pretty clear that it's rejected to me, so I'm sure you should add it to the list.
- Za-Chary
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1000+ posts
Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
@designerd doesn't respond often. I think I might ask @thisandagain next week. I think you should ask @designerd or another member of the ST for clarification about why it's rejected. Besides, it seems pretty clear that it's rejected to me, so I'm sure you should add it to the list.
- imfh
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Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
There would probably need to be something in the wording allowing for cloud lists which don't just act like normal lists. For example, this could allow for a cloud list where each user can only write to “their” one item.
- Luvexina
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Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
If it was 3 months ago, then support! It's not a long time, it was after the release of 3.0.It was said about 3 months ago on @designerd's profile. Not too hard to find if you scroll through. When was the “Cloud Lists are not something we plan on adding any time soon or ever. Sorry for the confusion.” said? If it was a long time ago, the ST might have changed their minds.
As a result, I wouldn't consider 3 months to be a “long time”.
- LuckyLucky7
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1000+ posts
Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
Support only if the Scratch Team makes it more clear on whether or not this(the cloud lists) suggestion is rejected.
- Za-Chary
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1000+ posts
Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
BUMP
Someone suggested cloud lists again.
Someone suggested cloud lists again.
- StrangeMagic32
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1000+ posts
Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
Until further notice, support
- Paddle2See
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1000+ posts
Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
Yeah, at this point I think you should add it to the rejected suggestions list. While they would be a nice feature that would enable new kinds of cool projects - the issues with them still remain. Cloud variables have proven to be expensive to maintain and subject to abuse. Cloud lists magnify these issues even more. BUMP
Someone suggested cloud lists again.
- Za-Chary
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1000+ posts
Add "Cloud Lists" to the Rejected Suggestions Sticky
Thanks for the response! It does look like this is a rejected suggestion so I'll close it to keep the conversation away from this place. Yeah, at this point I think you should add it to the rejected suggestions list. While they would be a nice feature that would enable new kinds of cool projects - the issues with them still remain. Cloud variables have proven to be expensive to maintain and subject to abuse. Cloud lists magnify these issues even more.
Please read the existing explanation in the post above.
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