Nope!

Remixes are not original projects; you're just copying stuff. Seriously, you won't even get popularity from a remix even if you are famous on Scratch.

Please don't discourage remixing! It has so much awesome potential, and it's a really important part of Scratch. People get to add their own ideas, artwork, and scripts to a project, and we can learn a lot from each other by collaborating.

nXIII wrote:

Remixes are not original projects; you're just copying stuff. Seriously, you won't even get popularity from a remix even if you are famous on Scratch.

Please don't discourage remixing! It has so much awesome potential, and it's a really important part of Scratch. People get to add their own ideas, artwork, and scripts to a project, and we can learn a lot from each other by collaborating.

Got it. I refined it to “Thou shalt not make a remix that directly copies the original project.” because THAT should be discouraged.

tlangster wrote:

nXIII wrote:

Remixes are not original projects; you're just copying stuff. Seriously, you won't even get popularity from a remix even if you are famous on Scratch.

Please don't discourage remixing! It has so much awesome potential, and it's a really important part of Scratch. People get to add their own ideas, artwork, and scripts to a project, and we can learn a lot from each other by collaborating.

Got it. I refined it to “Thou shalt not make a remix that directly copies the original project.” because THAT should be discouraged.

OK, cool.

This may not be true like in my case I have vary useful protects like a sorter or a calculator but or something to find the variance and mean of a set of numbers. but they arn,t very exciting and nobody likes them or even views them but I have no want for populatry(well maybe a little bit) I just wish that people would see that What I do is hard and I put a lot of work into them(not my most resent protects they are just me testing out scratch 2.0) and nobody cares why.

kiman100 wrote:

This may not be true like in my case I have vary useful protects like a sorter or a calculator but or something to find the variance and mean of a set of numbers. but they arn,t very exciting and nobody likes them or even views them but I have no want for populatry(well maybe a little bit) I just wish that people would see that What I do is hard and I put a lot of work into them(not my most resent protects they are just me testing out scratch 2.0) and nobody cares why.

Not many people like math, so maybe incorporate that math into a game. Not many people like sine or cosine (or trig in general) but if you incorporate it into a 360 direction scrolling game (a spaceship game for example), it's more likely to become popular, or at least get some views.

tlangster wrote:

Info: Yes, I know somebody else did a thread on this, I wanted to put out my own take on it, and I wanted to share more or less my opinions on it. As well, the title and style of the thread is just for fun, I'm not religious :P

Popularity. It is natural for anyone to have a desire to have themselves, or something they made, be popular. But in order to be popular, you have to earn popularity. As far as Scratch goes, it's obvious everyone wants to make a forum thread that is highly rated, or a project that is front-paged, or something along those lines. But what people don't understand is the fact that they have to work for it. And work hard.

Now it may seem unfair that some users like ScratchTeam or Wes64 or some others have TONS of followers that look at their projects as soon as they come out and love and view them. It may seem unfair that they seem to have popularity just following them. But think of something - these users started in the same boat that all Scratchers do - no followers, no recognition, nothing. But as they used their skills, their popularity grew, and look where they are now. So it is proven that it is possible.

So how do you get there? Well, you need to make worthwhile stuff that people will enjoy and recognize. So, what goes into that? I am going to tell you the many things that will get your projects popular, and as a result get you popular - all in this post.

The Scratch Project Commandments:

1) Thou shalt not have glitchy projects.

Which do you think is better?
1) A project with many things that work badly.
2) A project with few things that work well/perfectly.

The answer is 2. Nobody wants to have a terrible time using your program because of glitches. If your program can spell the answer to pi, but it is annoying and glitching, almost nobody will like it. But if your program can animate a Scratch Cat in 50 frames and make it work and look wonderful, and not be glitchy, it will be amazing.

2) Thou shalt not make programs that are laggy.

Your projects should be able to run well on slow computers as well as fast ones. It shouldn't run terribly on slow ones, but okay on fast ones. Try not to make them too preformance-hungry, and look into making blocks and turning on the “run without screen refresh.”

3) Thou shalt not make a remix that directly copies the original project.

Remixing is cool, and it allows for a large variety of applications. Directly copying an app is not varying, not helping, not improving, and should not be done.

4) Thou shalt not make animated series.

If you make a non-interactive animated thing, don't expect too much popularity; it has been done A LOT.

5) Thou shalt set a goal for a project, and the project shalt achieve this goal.

What is your project being made to do? Be a virtual OS? Then make it be a virtual OS. This may sound obvious, but it can be screwed up. Seriously consider if your project achieves what it is meant to achieve.

6) Thou shalt not make inappropriate projects.

Keep in mind that if your projects are flagged, they can't be shown, and your chances of it becoming popular are close to zero.

7) Thou shalt make the graphics look good.

Nobody likes a project with bad graphics. Note: I would suggest avoiding the Scratch 2.0 paint editor and finding a vector editor like InkScape and importing it. The editor that Scratch has is limited.

And, finally…

8) Thou shalt make a Show and Tell thread.

The Show and Tell thread is where you can get people to really know about your stuff. It is the best way to go, so please do this.

Let me know what you guys think about this thread. If I missed anything, tell me, so I can add it in. I hope you enjoyed this thread, and as always…

SCRATCH ON!

Disclaimer: This may not work for everyone, it is a guide not a magic pass.

I have some comments about the commandments:

#1: That depends. If you are a advanced scratcher and make glitchy projects, then, that would not be reasonable. But beginners who just learned how to program should not be discriminated. There are scratchers with different levels of experience: Beginners, Intermediate and Advanced. Beginners might make glitchy projects, but that just has to be accepted.
#2: Support.
#3. Support. Copying projects are not allowed and should be flagged. Remixing a project and changing it is ok.
#4: Scratch has a motto:

Imagine . Program . Share.

Scratch is a learning place for scratchers to learn how to make projects. Scratchers make different types of projects, games, animations, art, etc. Just because a scratcher made a animation does not mean that the project is bad. We should not discriminate scratchers just because they made a animation.
#5: Support
#6: Support
#7: Like I said, all Scratchers have different levels of experience. Beginners don't know much and may make projects with bad graphics.
We have to tolerate that as long as it follows the guidelines. A beginner will learn and will eventually become a advanced scratcher.
#8: Support

joshuaho wrote:

#1: That depends. If you are a advanced scratcher and make glitchy projects, then, that would not be reasonable. But beginners who just learned how to program should not be discriminated. There are scratchers with different levels of experience: Beginners, Intermediate and Advanced. Beginners might make glitchy projects, but that just has to be accepted.
#2: Support.
#3. Support. Copying projects are not allowed and should be flagged. Remixing a project and changing it is ok.
#4: Scratch has a motto:

Imagine . Program . Share.

Scratch is a learning place for scratchers to learn how to make projects. Scratchers make different types of projects, games, animations, art, etc. Just because a scratcher made a animation does not mean that the project is bad. We should not discriminate scratchers just because they made a animation.
#5: Support
#6: Support
#7: Like I said, all Scratchers have different levels of experience. Beginners don't know much and may make projects with bad graphics.
We have to tolerate that as long as it follows the guidelines. A beginner will learn and will eventually become a advanced scratcher.
#8: Support

What do you mean by support? Do you mean the author needs more support for his point?

Thou shalt not make an animated series? Tell that to jonzo.

Also: If you are active on the forums, putting a single link to a good project you made can help.

And yes, we do like good graphics.

Thou shalt not make an animated series.

… You're kidding me, right?


@dracae By support, he means that he agrees with the idea.

NoxSpooth wrote:

@dracae By support, he means that he agrees with the idea.

Ahh… That makes sense.
Thanks, Nox!

Look, guys, I created this thread with the express purpose of trying to get higher quality projects on the website. It is pretty much not something important.

FireNinjaGAME wrote:

Look, guys, I created this thread with the express purpose of trying to get higher quality projects on the website. It is pretty much not something important.

I'm sorry but I don't seem to understand the way you define a “quality project”.

According to #4, it has to be interactive, and must not be an animation (which goes against the motto, like joshuaho pointed out). And according #7, if your project doesn't have interesting graphics, then it's bad (and that doesn't really matter for me). Also, I don't agree with #5, it actually seems to be a good idea when multiple types of projects are mixed, instead of having only a single type

In my opinion, I think that the only Commandments that Scratch must have are these:

• Respect the Guidelines
  
• Give credits
  
• Have fun
  

Just saying, please don't turn this into an argument. That's not what I want to achieve.

I've marked this to be closed… For good reason. This is hopefully going to end up buried deep into the forums…

I'm sorry I made this topic in the first place.

Closed by request.