Mittens, I am totally with you. IDC if I get banned either. #LetAllScratchersBeFree!

MittensDaAwesomeCat wrote:

Really!? r u sure about that!? there's been some crazy things popping up online! like psycho crazy!! Im SERIOUS! what if some of the “Trusted adults” are hackers and are part of it!? WHO KNOWS!!!???

The Scratch Team is made out of employed people. If they did anything wrong their whole career could be at risk. And even if they were hackers or whatever, I don't see what trouble they could cause with just our unshared projects.

MittensDaAwesomeCat wrote:

IDC if I get banned! Scratch shouldn't do this to us! We have a right to scratch! if u agree, #LetAllScratchersBeFree!

Umm, you know that you agreed to that when you made your account, right?

Plus I don't see how this makes us not “free”. Their ability to view our unshared projects is just for security and safety reasons…

92ebuddy20 wrote:

Mittens, I am totally with you. IDC if I get banned either. #LetAllScratchersBeFree!

You are free though, the Scratch Team, as the moderators of the website have to be able to see what is going on. Like several other people said, a really inappropriate project could be shared, and then as soon as a person sees it, the person could unshare it. Then, the Scratch Team wouldn't be able to see the project to determine if it was inappropriate or not. By creating an account on the Scratch Website, you agree to the Privacy Policy and the Terms of Service. If you don't want your unshared projects to be seen, use the offline editor or just don't use Scratch.

I'm just pasting my previous comment thread on the studio here, so everyone can see.

This is flawed for a few reasons: You are supposed to read and accept the terms when you join, the history of the terms has barely changed since the initial release, it is the Scratch Team's website, the Scratch Team is preemptively keeping the site safe, the Scratch Team is still not allowed to share info in unshared projects, and you signed off privacy on the site when you joined. For all of the people that are surprised, you should have read the terms when you joined.

The Scratch API that is being used (api.scratch.mit.edu) shows that Scratch uses an online database to store information, so if you want to have your unshared projects when you leave the tab or close your computer (I believe that every tick is 1 minute actually, based on how thumbnails update and comments are sent) you will have to allow the Scratch Team to store every piece of code and image in the flask database, else your unshared projects will disappear after 1 minute. Hence, the Scratch Team has to have access to your unshared projects to save them for your purposes. To make it simpler to understand: If the Scratch Team didn't have access to the unshared projects, then you wouldn't have any unshared projects.

Basically, if you want to have unshared projects and even shared projects, the Scratch Team would need to have access to your project to store the code when it saves or updates per tick, otherwise every 1 minute all of your projects would be deleted. Databases have to be created and held on a server for information to be stored without suffering damage and so you don't have to restart everything and finish your project in 1 minute. Logically, the Scratch Team would have to have access to unshared projects to save the projects online for you.

According to the terms, unshared projects don't apply to most terms but they do apply to the community guidelines, as the Scratch Team is saving it on a database, with those guidelines applying to the database also.

It says in the community guidelines that Scratch is meant to be a safe environment, also all of the code in your unshared projects has to be stored in an online database, either Mongo or Flask, most likely flask, based on the API that Scratch uses.

If you would like to take the time to learn Flask and how to create websites, feel free, I'm just trying to make this easier to understand as someone with the knowledge.

To sum it up, you accepted the terms when you joined, the Scratch Team owns the Scratch Website, and the Scratch Team has to see your unshared projects to save them for the next time you want to edit them. If you feel this is an invasion of privacy, it is not, and if you have any personal information on the website or on unshared projects, it is your fault. Also, even though the Scratch Team can see your unshared projects, they cannot share the information on it yet as it is technically private.

LegoManiac04 wrote:

MittensDaAwesomeCat wrote:

IDC if I get banned! Scratch shouldn't do this to us! We have a right to scratch! if u agree, #LetAllScratchersBeFree!

Umm, you know that you agreed to that when you made your account, right?

Plus I don't see how this makes us not “free”. Their ability to view our unshared projects is just for security and safety reasons…

It is not only for security and safety reasons, it is also to simply store the code and project on the server

Im fine! it just worries me. its been so bad that its on the news!

MittensDaAwesomeCat wrote:

Im fine! it just worries me. its been so bad that its on the news!

Has it really?

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

Jedibrine wrote:

MittensDaAwesomeCat wrote:

Im fine! it just worries me. its been so bad that its on the news!

Has it really?

Really!

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

I'd like to tell you about a fundamental law of the Internet that everyone should know about: Never post anything on the Internet that you don't want someone else seeing. If you want total privacy, keep it on your own computer.

Flowermanvista wrote:

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

I'd like to tell you about a fundamental law of the Internet that everyone should know about: Never post anything on the Internet that you don't want someone else seeing. If you want total privacy, keep it on your own computer.

Actually… even on your own computer can be risky (if you have younger siblings) Probably should keep it in a box in the ground or something like that, though even then…

MittensDaAwesomeCat wrote:

Im fine! it just worries me. its been so bad that its on the news!

What news?

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Flowermanvista wrote:

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

I'd like to tell you about a fundamental law of the Internet that everyone should know about: Never post anything on the Internet that you don't want someone else seeing. If you want total privacy, keep it on your own computer.

Actually… even on your own computer can be risky (if you have younger siblings) Probably should keep it in a box in the ground or something like that, though even then…

I have 15 younger siblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

92ebuddy20 wrote:

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Flowermanvista wrote:

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

I'd like to tell you about a fundamental law of the Internet that everyone should know about: Never post anything on the Internet that you don't want someone else seeing. If you want total privacy, keep it on your own computer.

Actually… even on your own computer can be risky (if you have younger siblings) Probably should keep it in a box in the ground or something like that, though even then…

I have 15 younger siblings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly. If you have something you don't want anyone to see, don't make it.

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Flowermanvista wrote:

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

I'd like to tell you about a fundamental law of the Internet that everyone should know about: Never post anything on the Internet that you don't want someone else seeing. If you want total privacy, keep it on your own computer.

Actually… even on your own computer can be risky (if you have younger siblings) Probably should keep it in a box in the ground or something like that, though even then…

If you're that paranoid, and it's your own computer, you and your younger siblings have some trust issues that you need to work out. They need to understand that it's not right to touch other people's private things if you don't want them to.

Flowermanvista wrote:

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

Flowermanvista wrote:

katniss167 wrote:

That's ridiculous, why should they be allowed to look at unshared projects? There is stuff on there we don't want anyone to see!

I'd like to tell you about a fundamental law of the Internet that everyone should know about: Never post anything on the Internet that you don't want someone else seeing. If you want total privacy, keep it on your own computer.

Actually… even on your own computer can be risky (if you have younger siblings) Probably should keep it in a box in the ground or something like that, though even then…

If you're that paranoid, and it's your own computer, you and your younger siblings have some trust issues that you need to work out. They need to understand that it's not right to touch other people's private things if you don't want them to.

yeah… it was kind of a joke, but sadly a reality for some…

Wow! I never knew this!

HermioneCrooky wrote:

Wow! I never knew this!

It's creepy, right?

I must comment on your logo:

First off, the Scratch Team didn't “trick us”. When you created your account, you accepted the terms, including the terms that allow then to see your unshared projects.
Second, they are not stalkers. They are doing this so Scratch can remain a safe place for everyone.

LegoManiac04 wrote:

I must comment on your logo:

First off, the Scratch Team didn't “trick us”. When you created your account, you accepted the terms, including the terms that allow then to see your unshared projects.
Second, they are not stalkers. They are doing this so Scratch can remain a safe place for everyone.

I want to build on this.
If you didn't read the privacy policy when you created your account that's your fault, so they did nothing of the sort in tricking anyone, and also how are they stalkers?
stalker
n. A person who engages in stalking. Originally meant a tracker and hunter or guide of game.
n. A person who secretly follows someone, sometimes with unlawful intentions.

Stalking
Stalking is unwanted or repeated surveillance by an individual or group towards another person. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person or monitoring them.

I don't understand why this whole “Unshared projects can be seen by Scratch” is such a big deal… It's literally to keep everyone safe…