Discuss Scratch
- TheRealNetherBefore
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Currently, other than what you say yourself, there's noting visible to scratch users that connects two accounts belonging to the same person. This is a slightly annoying aspect of the site that causes a few problems. Firstly, it limits what people will do with alternate accounts due to the fact that their followers will likely not find them- someone like myself who makes a lot of different kinds of projects could benefit from splitting them up across different accounts, but my projects would receive less attention as a result. The other problem with this is its potential role in rule breaking. While dodging bans with an alt is not allowed, it can still happen, plus a user could switch between accounts to avoid getting bans by spacing out their alerts. Unknown alt accounts can also be used to inflate project likes, get their own projects featured or to push opinions in the forums.
I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is. This space would fit four clickable profile pics of the users most popular alternate accounts with a plus sign at the end which can be clicked to view them all. Hovering over these will show the username. In the case of a user's alts being across emails, they can choose to add an account to their alt list- this action must be approved by both accounts.
Addition:
The main issue I can see with this is that it wouldn't be a catch-all for the problems it fixes as malicious users could make different emails to dodge the problem, however I feel that due to the age (and therefore online freedom) of scratch's users, it would stop and deter most wanting to break the rule.
I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is. This space would fit four clickable profile pics of the users most popular alternate accounts with a plus sign at the end which can be clicked to view them all. Hovering over these will show the username. In the case of a user's alts being across emails, they can choose to add an account to their alt list- this action must be approved by both accounts.
Addition:
Users can hide accounts in the same menu where they can add them, however if they do (and it tells them in the menu that this will happen) they have a grey square in the place of that account which when hovered over gives a pop up that says something along the lines of “Sorry! This user has hidden one of their alternate accounts, so you cannot view it.”
The main issue I can see with this is that it wouldn't be a catch-all for the problems it fixes as malicious users could make different emails to dodge the problem, however I feel that due to the age (and therefore online freedom) of scratch's users, it would stop and deter most wanting to break the rule.
Last edited by TheRealNetherBefore (July 31, 2018 17:02:03)
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Support, would be useful to dodge bans, and prove who your alt accounts really are.
- Wahsp
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Then you just wouldn't link it. But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?
- Wahsp
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Would this be automatic?Then you just wouldn't link it. But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?
I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Oh.Would this be automatic?Then you just wouldn't link it. But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
- Botcho_Otkho
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
I don't think this is a reason to support… would be useful to dodge bans

- LionHeart70
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Semi support, but the thing is, users might work around this by making multiple emails for their accounts.
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
It clearly is.I don't think this is a reason to support… would be useful to dodge bans
- Botcho_Otkho
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
No.It clearly is.I don't think this is a reason to support… would be useful to dodge bans
(newline to give some suspence)
Can you understand that you get a ban when you break the rules a lot of times? It's a serious thing, not a stupid thing that you have to workaround.
Also, bump.
I didn't write “support” or “no support” because what I wanted to say was already stated by others
Last edited by Botcho_Otkho (July 24, 2018 09:18:33)
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
I wrote that by accident. I meant “would be useful to help with people switching accounts to ban.”No.It clearly is.I don't think this is a reason to support… would be useful to dodge bans
(newline to give some suspence)
Can you understand that you get a ban when you break the rules a lot of times? It's a serious thing, not a stupid thing that you have to workaround.
Also, bump.
I didn't write “support” or “no support” because what I wanted to say was already stated by others
- Botcho_Otkho
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Oh.I wrote that by accident. I meant “would be useful to help with people switching accounts to ban.”No.It clearly is.I don't think this is a reason to support… would be useful to dodge bans
(newline to give some suspence)
Can you understand that you get a ban when you break the rules a lot of times? It's a serious thing, not a stupid thing that you have to workaround.
Also, bump.
I didn't write “support” or “no support” because what I wanted to say was already stated by others
- TheRealNetherBefore
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
They could, however there are other purposes to this feature than stopping people from using alts to dodge bans, plus since a lot of scratch's user are young they're less likely to try doing something like that due to parents. Semi support, but the thing is, users might work around this by making multiple emails for their accounts.
It would be automatic. Would this be automatic?I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
- MrFluffyPenguins
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
uh.. “would be useful to dodge bans”? That's why you support? Support, would be useful to dodge bans, and prove who your alt accounts really are.
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Read the discussion above.uh.. “would be useful to dodge bans”? That's why you support? Support, would be useful to dodge bans, and prove who your alt accounts really are.
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Maybe you should have the ability, to delete accounts from being shown, but it should still be seen in Scratch's servers.It would be automatic. Would this be automatic?I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
- TheRealNetherBefore
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.Maybe you should have the ability, to delete accounts from being shown, but it should still be seen in Scratch's servers.It would be automatic. Would this be automatic?I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
It would still be seen in Scratch's servers, so if they try to use another account to dodge the ban, and it isn't linked, it would still be banned.That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.Maybe you should have the ability, to delete accounts from being shown, but it should still be seen in Scratch's servers.It would be automatic. Would this be automatic?I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
- TheRealNetherBefore
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Yes, but part of my intention with this suggestion would be allowing users to see, not just the team, therefore I'm sticking with that being part of the concept.It would still be seen in Scratch's servers, so if they try to use another account to dodge the ban, and it isn't linked, it would still be banned. That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.
- TheAdriCoolManDude
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1000+ posts
Linking Alternate accounts
Maybe there should like this info sign, that says other accounts can't be seen, but rather in the servers, so they could stop the sock puppet bans with those accounts.Yes, but part of my intention with this suggestion would be allowing users to see, not just the team, therefore I'm sticking with that being part of the concept.It would still be seen in Scratch's servers, so if they try to use another account to dodge the ban, and it isn't linked, it would still be banned. That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.