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TheRealNetherBefore
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

Currently, other than what you say yourself, there's noting visible to scratch users that connects two accounts belonging to the same person. This is a slightly annoying aspect of the site that causes a few problems. Firstly, it limits what people will do with alternate accounts due to the fact that their followers will likely not find them- someone like myself who makes a lot of different kinds of projects could benefit from splitting them up across different accounts, but my projects would receive less attention as a result. The other problem with this is its potential role in rule breaking. While dodging bans with an alt is not allowed, it can still happen, plus a user could switch between accounts to avoid getting bans by spacing out their alerts. Unknown alt accounts can also be used to inflate project likes, get their own projects featured or to push opinions in the forums.

I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is. This space would fit four clickable profile pics of the users most popular alternate accounts with a plus sign at the end which can be clicked to view them all. Hovering over these will show the username. In the case of a user's alts being across emails, they can choose to add an account to their alt list- this action must be approved by both accounts.
Addition:

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

Users can hide accounts in the same menu where they can add them, however if they do (and it tells them in the menu that this will happen) they have a grey square in the place of that account which when hovered over gives a pop up that says something along the lines of “Sorry! This user has hidden one of their alternate accounts, so you cannot view it.”


The main issue I can see with this is that it wouldn't be a catch-all for the problems it fixes as malicious users could make different emails to dodge the problem, however I feel that due to the age (and therefore online freedom) of scratch's users, it would stop and deter most wanting to break the rule.

Last edited by TheRealNetherBefore (July 31, 2018 17:02:03)

TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

Support, would be useful to dodge bans, and prove who your alt accounts really are.
Wahsp
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

Wahsp wrote:

But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?
Then you just wouldn't link it.
Wahsp
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Wahsp wrote:

But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?
Then you just wouldn't link it.
Would this be automatic?

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

Wahsp wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Wahsp wrote:

But what if you wanted an account that wasn’t related to your other account and you didn’t want people to know it was you?
Then you just wouldn't link it.
Would this be automatic?

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
Oh.
Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
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Linking Alternate accounts

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

would be useful to dodge bans
I don't think this is a reason to support…
LionHeart70
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

Semi support, but the thing is, users might work around this by making multiple emails for their accounts.
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

would be useful to dodge bans
I don't think this is a reason to support…
It clearly is.
Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
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Linking Alternate accounts

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

would be useful to dodge bans
I don't think this is a reason to support…
It clearly is.
No.
(newline to give some suspence)
Can you understand that you get a ban when you break the rules a lot of times? It's a serious thing, not a stupid thing that you have to workaround.
Also, bump.
I didn't write “support” or “no support” because what I wanted to say was already stated by others

Last edited by Botcho_Otkho (July 24, 2018 09:18:33)

TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

would be useful to dodge bans
I don't think this is a reason to support…
It clearly is.
No.
(newline to give some suspence)
Can you understand that you get a ban when you break the rules a lot of times? It's a serious thing, not a stupid thing that you have to workaround.
Also, bump.
I didn't write “support” or “no support” because what I wanted to say was already stated by others
I wrote that by accident. I meant “would be useful to help with people switching accounts to ban.”
Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
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Linking Alternate accounts

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

would be useful to dodge bans
I don't think this is a reason to support…
It clearly is.
No.
(newline to give some suspence)
Can you understand that you get a ban when you break the rules a lot of times? It's a serious thing, not a stupid thing that you have to workaround.
Also, bump.
I didn't write “support” or “no support” because what I wanted to say was already stated by others
I wrote that by accident. I meant “would be useful to help with people switching accounts to ban.”
Oh.
TheRealNetherBefore
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

LionHeart70 wrote:

Semi support, but the thing is, users might work around this by making multiple emails for their accounts.
They could, however there are other purposes to this feature than stopping people from using alts to dodge bans, plus since a lot of scratch's user are young they're less likely to try doing something like that due to parents.

Wahsp wrote:

Would this be automatic?

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
It would be automatic.
MrFluffyPenguins
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Linking Alternate accounts

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Support, would be useful to dodge bans, and prove who your alt accounts really are.
uh.. “would be useful to dodge bans”? That's why you support?
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
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Linking Alternate accounts

Mr_PenguinAlex wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Support, would be useful to dodge bans, and prove who your alt accounts really are.
uh.. “would be useful to dodge bans”? That's why you support?
Read the discussion above.
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

Wahsp wrote:

Would this be automatic?

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
It would be automatic.
Maybe you should have the ability, to delete accounts from being shown, but it should still be seen in Scratch's servers.
TheRealNetherBefore
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

Wahsp wrote:

Would this be automatic?

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
It would be automatic.
Maybe you should have the ability, to delete accounts from being shown, but it should still be seen in Scratch's servers.
That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

Wahsp wrote:

Would this be automatic?

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

I think a solution to this situation would be having all accounts under the same email linked on the profile page, perhaps on the excess space where the profile pic, username and account age is
It would be automatic.
Maybe you should have the ability, to delete accounts from being shown, but it should still be seen in Scratch's servers.
That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.
It would still be seen in Scratch's servers, so if they try to use another account to dodge the ban, and it isn't linked, it would still be banned.
TheRealNetherBefore
Scratcher
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Linking Alternate accounts

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.
It would still be seen in Scratch's servers, so if they try to use another account to dodge the ban, and it isn't linked, it would still be banned.
Yes, but part of my intention with this suggestion would be allowing users to see, not just the team, therefore I'm sticking with that being part of the concept.
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Linking Alternate accounts

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

TheRealNetherBefore wrote:

That kind of defeats the point of it helping users to spot those breaking rules with alts. It would still be useful, but part of the intention was that you (a user) would be able to see yourself if two accounts are linked, helping you to stop spam, ban evasion and bullying and providing a bit of comfort- receiving hate from three different accounts wouldn't be as upsetting if you knew it was all the same person.
It would still be seen in Scratch's servers, so if they try to use another account to dodge the ban, and it isn't linked, it would still be banned.
Yes, but part of my intention with this suggestion would be allowing users to see, not just the team, therefore I'm sticking with that being part of the concept.
Maybe there should like this info sign, that says other accounts can't be seen, but rather in the servers, so they could stop the sock puppet bans with those accounts.

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